Once you're hip and trendy enough to drop out and start working at Whole Foods, you begin hating any black-and-white comics that are read by more than 100 people.
You start reading photocopied 'zine comics with one staple in the top-left corner.
After your first few times trying shrooms, you just start reading those religious tracts that people leave in public bathrooms. And they're fan-freaking-tastic. You just sit there giggling while you read them.
So, in his world, Scott Pilgrim is a comic for Grown-Ups, while Watchmen is a kids comic... (not that SP is a kids comic, it's just more kid-friendly than Watchmen, I'd say)
If I had any talent, I'd make a b/w-comic set in a land of rainbows and candy and lovey-dovey-ness and the most bloody, gory, sex-filled comic ever in vibrant colors, just for this guy (because, let's face it: his interpretation of "grown up entertainment" probably starts with tits and ends with eviscerated intestines...)
I think the guy has a pretty good point. The best comics are written and drawn by one creator probably about 85% of the time. Unless they are a big name like Clowes that gets a long, long deadline or they paint the comic, chances are that the black and white comic is going to be the mature one, the one worth reading and saving.
Black & white isn't the same as made by one person (though yes, a lot of time a solitary author sticks with B&W). And the guy just said that colored comics are immature and inferior to B&W ones just because they're colored. So by his definition Sultry Teenage Super-Foxes is more mature than, say, Watchmen.
Now I'm kinda curious about this guy's stance on manga...
"When I became a man I put away colour comics because that makes me smarter and more grown up, the two are linked" -Some idiot in a comic store (paraphrased).
I remember being chastised back in tenth grade by a couple of morons who though my reading "little kid stuff" like The Mighty Thor (in the middle of Walt Simonson's run, no less) was lame while to them magazines like Cracked or Mad were "real" entertainment.
Oh jesus, it's not even like that's the ages standard for grown up. That's what sixth graders read to feel like tenth graders and tenth graders put aside because it makes them feel like sixth graders.
Like the commenter above, I remember being chastised in school for reading Marvels but the head who was reading Epic Illustrated (by MARVEL) got left alone. Even today, I get crap for reading monthly "floppies" but the folks reading the tpb's get left alone
I feel like this comic, more than any other, should be colorized.
ReplyDeleteUgh. This guy makes me think of the cats who spews hatred for Superhero comics...
ReplyDelete"cats"? Do you live in the 50's?
DeleteMan, I use the words that suit me. Why do you care?
DeleteI can't tell you how disappointed I am to learn that Garfield isn't a ripoff a comic from the 50s about a cat who hates superheroes. :(
DeleteOnce you're hip and trendy enough to drop out and start working at Whole Foods, you begin hating any black-and-white comics that are read by more than 100 people.
ReplyDeleteYou start reading photocopied 'zine comics with one staple in the top-left corner.
After your first few times trying shrooms, you just start reading those religious tracts that people leave in public bathrooms. And they're fan-freaking-tastic. You just sit there giggling while you read them.
These are the people who make me want to talk about Secret Wars II. For hours.
ReplyDeleteHaw!
DeleteThis made me laugh very hard.
DeleteSo, in his world, Scott Pilgrim is a comic for Grown-Ups, while Watchmen is a kids comic... (not that SP is a kids comic, it's just more kid-friendly than Watchmen, I'd say)
ReplyDeleteIf I had any talent, I'd make a b/w-comic set in a land of rainbows and candy and lovey-dovey-ness and the most bloody, gory, sex-filled comic ever in vibrant colors, just for this guy (because, let's face it: his interpretation of "grown up entertainment" probably starts with tits and ends with eviscerated intestines...)
"a b/w-comic set in a land of rainbows"
DeleteThat'd be a challenge.
But not impossible! Yeah, the rainbows would be black, white, gray and...dark gray, but still...
DeleteC'mon Walter, there are at least 50 shades of grey one can work with. You'd need only 7 for a rainbow.
DeleteIf you can't stand to read a comic just because it's in color, YOU'RE the one who needs to grow up.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't phrase it better
DeleteYou could substitue "color comics" with "comics" and "black and white comics" with "books", and he would sound just like...well, everybody.
ReplyDeleteI see a racism joke in here somewhere, but I'm just too tired to be witty about it.
ReplyDeleteThis guy needs to be thrown out of the store on his ass.
ReplyDeleteI think the guy has a pretty good point. The best comics are written and drawn by one creator probably about 85% of the time. Unless they are a big name like Clowes that gets a long, long deadline or they paint the comic, chances are that the black and white comic is going to be the mature one, the one worth reading and saving.
ReplyDeleteBlack & white isn't the same as made by one person (though yes, a lot of time a solitary author sticks with B&W).
DeleteAnd the guy just said that colored comics are immature and inferior to B&W ones just because they're colored.
So by his definition Sultry Teenage Super-Foxes is more mature than, say, Watchmen.
Now I'm kinda curious about this guy's stance on manga...
Was he using "idiots" in the sense of the older, now offensive term for mentally disabled people?
ReplyDeleteOr maybe the original Greek meaning of "rich isolated person who knows little about the common man"
DeleteChris Ware is for kids and idiots. :(
ReplyDeleteSuuure, EXCEPT that if I showed this guy Japanese comics, he wouldn't even crack the book open. Good luck with your elitism, bro!
ReplyDeleteA mouth just MADE for punching.
ReplyDeleteBackpfeifengesicht: German for a face that cries out for a fist in it.
Delete"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -C.S. Lewis
ReplyDelete"When I became a man I put away colour comics because that makes me smarter and more grown up, the two are linked" -Some idiot in a comic store (paraphrased).
DeleteRight. The fear of being thought of as 'childish' is a sign of immaturity. It's a very good quote.
DeleteI remember being chastised back in tenth grade by a couple of morons who though my reading "little kid stuff" like The Mighty Thor (in the middle of Walt Simonson's run, no less) was lame while to them magazines like Cracked or Mad were "real" entertainment.
ReplyDeleteOh jesus, it's not even like that's the ages standard for grown up. That's what sixth graders read to feel like tenth graders and tenth graders put aside because it makes them feel like sixth graders.
DeleteWell that's a new one.
ReplyDeleteBeing an adult means reading what you like and not caring what other people think about it.
ReplyDeleteDamn straight.
DeleteI'm pretty sure there's more to it than that.
DeleteHuh. Usually people use the opposite logic:
ReplyDelete"This movie/comic is in black and white?! It must be cheap/poorly made/old and therefore not good."
Thank you, guy with a mid-90's beard.
ReplyDeleteHow many western comics are being made these days without color anyways?
ReplyDeleteEspecially with computers making coloring less time consuming...
THE COLORS CHILDREN! MAGLAVEN!
ReplyDeleteLike the commenter above, I remember being chastised in school for reading Marvels but the head who was reading Epic Illustrated (by MARVEL) got left alone. Even today, I get crap for reading monthly "floppies" but the folks reading the tpb's get left alone
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