That's really the problem, here -- despite Lucas's push for film preservation, he took a big steaming dump on the original three movies and now we can't buy them anymore except in the remixed format. I could care less about the prequels... they stunk, I hated them, I moved on. But it's a shame we can't watch the movies we LIKE anymore without those additions.
Please explain what you mean by this. No one that I know was disappointed in "Serenity", which was the movie based on the TV series,"Firefly", whereas almost everyone I know was disappointed in the Stars Wars prequels. So, I do not understand your comparison.
The disappointment in the movies is only incidental to the statement at hand. The cartoon refers to a pointless grudge, like Firefly people holding a grudge against Fox for cancelling a tv show a decade hence. The comparison is not between the source materials, only between the fans.
Yes, it's completely the same because Fox has done nothing else to be disliked for. Ever since Firefly, they've had an amazing track record of support for every show on their network.
And it's partially NOT his story too. A lot of what made the originals great was input from Lucas' friends. Lucas had a lot of shitty ideas back then too but was either unable to do them (due to budget and technology reasons) or was convinced not to by his more experienced friends.
And just look at the disaster when Lucas finally got the budget and technology to do exactly what he wanted without input from others (apart from the toy corporations). Ewoks were the first signs of the rot, the prequels just plain sucked, and not content with that he had to go back and ruin the few things he'd done right.
Refusing to pay for that drek isn't "holding a grudge". It's having a shred of discerning taste in film.
Any artist can go back and do whatever he wants with his work. It's the same as Lord of the Rings being re-written and changed 30 years after they were published. It's the same as Wolverine being changed to be a woman instead. It's the same as if the Mona Lisa had a mustache painted on 30 years after it had been done. Just as it is the same as Han Solo stepping on Jabba's tail. Who am I kidding, what a f* up!
How opinions can differ. Imho only the Phantom Menace is really bad. Clone wars is solid and i would even say that Revenge of the sith is at least on par or slightly better than Return of the jedi.
I take the 'it's true' tag to mean that it's just a true statement - in this case, it can be applied to most people who still bitch about Phantom Menace, (which is still my favorite of the prequels).
Well, at least someone finally said it...
ReplyDeleteIt's true, the prequals weren't as good as the original three and anyone who is still up in arms about this really need to move on with their lives.
ReplyDeleteI'll move on when I can finally buy an un-ruined copy of Star Wars where Greedo doesn't shoot first.
DeleteThat's really the problem, here -- despite Lucas's push for film preservation, he took a big steaming dump on the original three movies and now we can't buy them anymore except in the remixed format. I could care less about the prequels... they stunk, I hated them, I moved on. But it's a shame we can't watch the movies we LIKE anymore without those additions.
DeleteMotherfuckin' BURN.
ReplyDeleteThis applies to so many things in so many fandoms.
ReplyDeleteFirefly. Probably the second most deserving fandom for this statement (after the Star Wars people) is Firefly.
DeletePlease explain what you mean by this. No one that I know was disappointed in "Serenity", which was the movie based on the TV series,"Firefly", whereas almost everyone I know was disappointed in the Stars Wars prequels. So, I do not understand your comparison.
DeleteThe disappointment in the movies is only incidental to the statement at hand. The cartoon refers to a pointless grudge, like Firefly people holding a grudge against Fox for cancelling a tv show a decade hence. The comparison is not between the source materials, only between the fans.
DeleteYes, it's completely the same because Fox has done nothing else to be disliked for. Ever since Firefly, they've had an amazing track record of support for every show on their network.
DeleteWhat obligation did Lucas ever have anyway? It's his story...
ReplyDeleteNot once he starts expecting people to pay him for it.
DeleteIt's still his story. All you're doing is paying to see it; not buying the actual story.
DeleteExcept I'm not paying for it. And neither are a lot of other star wars fans. Not any more.
DeleteAnd it's partially NOT his story too. A lot of what made the originals great was input from Lucas' friends. Lucas had a lot of shitty ideas back then too but was either unable to do them (due to budget and technology reasons) or was convinced not to by his more experienced friends.
Delete^pretty much this.
DeleteAnd just look at the disaster when Lucas finally got the budget and technology to do exactly what he wanted without input from others (apart from the toy corporations). Ewoks were the first signs of the rot, the prequels just plain sucked, and not content with that he had to go back and ruin the few things he'd done right.
Refusing to pay for that drek isn't "holding a grudge". It's having a shred of discerning taste in film.
Willow was a warning; Lucas is a hack.
Can I still hold a grudge against Hi-C for getting rid of Ecto Cooler? That really hurt, man.
ReplyDeleteHow about Gatorade for getting rid of Lemon Ice? Half Lemon Ice/Half Vodka was so damn delicious! (And inebriating)
DeleteIt's a pain that'll never truly go away.
DeleteI'm still mad at Marvel for firing Steve Gerber from Howard the Duck.
DeleteI'm still mad at Famous Studios for only making 8 Superman cartoons after they took over the series from Fleischer.
DeleteAny artist can go back and do whatever he wants with his work. It's the same as Lord of the Rings being re-written and changed 30 years after they were published. It's the same as Wolverine being changed to be a woman instead. It's the same as if the Mona Lisa had a mustache painted on 30 years after it had been done. Just as it is the same as Han Solo stepping on Jabba's tail. Who am I kidding, what a f* up!
DeleteWow, a rare case of common sense-driven customer.
ReplyDeleteBoring, hell. The prequel movies are fascinating in how bad they are. It's like watching an infinite trainwreck with lightsabers.
ReplyDeleteHow opinions can differ. Imho only the Phantom Menace is really bad. Clone wars is solid and i would even say that Revenge of the sith is at least on par or slightly better than Return of the jedi.
DeleteWell you're right about opinions differing then.
DeleteI gave the prequels a fair shake. They were stupid, so I just watch the old ones.
ReplyDeleteFriendship!
ReplyDeleteIs getting comics at your store a secondary goal for your customers destroying their friendships?
ReplyDelete“It’s true” is too harsh, unless the person really is a boring asshole (for reasons other than having a grudge against George Lucas).
ReplyDeleteI take the 'it's true' tag to mean that it's just a true statement - in this case, it can be applied to most people who still bitch about Phantom Menace, (which is still my favorite of the prequels).
DeleteOh god, the whole apology thing comes up all the damn time in SWTOR chat...
ReplyDeleteValued Customer of the Day Guy, you NAILED it! That's EXCELLENT!!!!!
ReplyDeleteFun things are fun afterall!
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