I can't comment on TWD as a show, (I keep meaning to get to it, but never seem to get around to it), but I can comment on his "logic".1. Just because it's boring doesn't mean it's not genius. Take Citizen Kane. Most people in the film industry claim it's the greatest movie ever made, bar none. But have you ever seen it? It's the very epitome of boring boringness that will bore you.2. One of my big pet peeves is all of the people out there who think that just because there isn't something exploding on screen, it means that stuff is boring. Again, I can't say if TWD is boring or not, but it seems to me that just because (apparently) someone isn't getting eating at every turn on the show, that doesn't automatically mean it's boring. But I know far too many people who will disagree.Anyway, I should probably go watch the show so I can talk in more than generalities and theory.
His logic is pretty flawless. Just because Citizen Kane is "boring" and is also genius, does not mean that a boring film is inherently genius. Remember Matrix Revolutions? Boring as FUCK. The Phantom Menace? Also not genius at all. I haven't watched the show in question, but people I know who are captivated by TWD have this weird perspective that it's brilliant because it's "realistic", and go on to describe scenarios that are incredibly dull. Maybe it is genius. But I kind of doubt it.
Who gives a shit if a show is genius or not? It's an opinion. Personally, having watched the show, I think it DOES get boring at times. But the really good exciting parts make it completely worth watching.
My favorite part of the show is when they spend episodes on crucial matter like "Why are you skipping out on cleaning laundry and dishes?" and "Not watching their children in a zombie post apocalypse"
"Citizen Kane" boring??!! Are you kidding?Sorry to go off on a tangent here, but seriously, how the hell can you say that film is boring?You can say that you don't like it, that it's not your thing, okay, I wouldn't agree, but boring???Boredom is an ennui of tedious repetition. "Citizen Kane" has none of that. Each scene is layered with deep structure, peeling away an onion to try and find out what made up a man's life. (I won't even get into all the revolutionary story telling this film contributed)But boring???? You want to see boring, watch the latest "Transformers" film, for example. The same thing over-and-over-and-over-and-over, etc…. You can get up anytime and take a leak or get something to drink and when you return, you haven't missed anything.As for "The Walking Dead". Can't comment, I've never seen it.
Citizen Kane is for cinephiles that like to touch themselves whilst talking about things like structure. Sure, the film was ground breaking in many ways, but viewed from the perspective of anyone who's seen any films made after it, Citizen Kane is only of (dry, tedious) academic interest.See also: Beatles.
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I disagree, Cpt. I love Citizen Kane but I'd never describe it as boring. It's talky and not much in the way of physical action, sure. But there's so much going on editing and scenery wise it's eye candy.You want to see REALLY boring? Try THE REMAINS OF THE DAY.
OMG, it's the "my stuff isn't boring, this stuff is boring" war. The Remains of the Day would be in the catagory of "my stuff isn't boring". But what do I know? I actually watch The Walking Dead and like Citizen Kane.
I've seen both. Citien Kane wasn't boring.But the Walking Dead is.
Suggesting that "Citizen Kane" is boring may be a good way to get laughed off the internet.
I feel a few episodes do drag on, but the show has many good moments. It's not perfect and its definitely not "genius", but does it need to be? The enjoy the comics but I also hated how badly the dialogue was written. It feels like that slightly improved in the show.
The Walking Dead TV series is a soap opera with zombies.And dammit all, I like it.
Well.. it's what I thought about Lost, too.
Wow... a lot more backdraft and trolling to my comment than I expected. Hey, if you like Citizen Kane, more power to you. (Assuming you've actually seen it and aren't just claiming to like it because you're supposed to.) I'll admit it was groundbreaking for its time from a cinematography point of view, but... well, some people get off on camera angles, unnecessary symbolism, and pretension. Not me so much. None of those things are necessarily bad on their own, but too much of a thing is too much.Of course, all of this is in my opinion, which I will readily agree is my own and that's all. You are free to disagree, and that's cool, because enjoyment of a movie is a subjective experience.
Like I said in my earlier post, whether you like something or don't, that's one thing. But it's this miss use of the word "boring" that, IMO, is what bothers me here. It seems these days that many think they're being cool or contrary by simply labeling something as boring. People sitting around talking is NOT inherently boring! Hell, look at the opening scene in "Inglorious Basterds". It's just two people simply talking in a French farm house, so that's boring, right? There's more to just the dialogue of conversations going on in many films. I hear and read too many people spouting off that they find people talking in films as boring. IMO, they aren't actually watching the movie. They're just doing something to pass the time. You want dull? You want boring? See the latest "Ghost Rider" film.It's filled with special effects, chase scenes and confrontations and the damn thing is so tedious that it'll put you to sleep.
What the fuck is "miss use"?
Obviously the daughter of mister and madam use.
Maybe he meant Ms. USA.
To Capt. Skweky:My hat is off to you sir! I also find Citizen Kane boring. (Yes, boring as in tedious, as in slow, ponderous, not possessing a stimulating effect.) I find it operatic and heavy handed and BORING! My friends think I'm just a curmudgeon. And, by the way, when I say "it's boring," that is obviously stating an opinion. Take it or leave it, but abrogate the tedious semantic sophistries, please.
You're trying waaaaay too hard to sound smart on the internet for a group of strangers.
Okay, I know I just said leave off the semantics, but I can't let this go. Call me a jerk if you want to. "Ennui of tedious repetition" Those are three words with three separate meanings, not a definition. Merriam Webster defines "Boredom" as: the state of being weary and restless through lack of interest, which describes EXACTLY how I felt both times I watched Citizen Kane.
Wow, really? every word has it's own separate meaning. Definitions are made up of words. yours was made of 11 words, each with its separate meaning. Duh much?While "Ennui of tedious repetition" reeks of pretentious drivel (as does 'pretentious drivel') it is a fair approximation of a definition.boring - Uninteresting and tiresome; dull.Three words with three separate meanings, and a definition!
Actually, ennui means a feeling of apathy or futility unrelated to external circumstances, so you can be bored by a movie, but a movie can't make you feel ennui. Tedious means dull because of unnecessary length, repetition or slowness, so something can be repetitious without being tedious, or tedious without being repetitious. So it's not a definition--the phrase actually confuses the meaning of the word it's trying to define.
"Ennui of tedious repetition"I count four words.
Amen Brother! Preach the word of truth! What a snooze fest that show is, B...O...R...I...N...G!
Also, The God Father is boring.
These comments are boring.
Actually these comments all own.
I guess I'm the lonely minority who likes both the comic and the show as separate entities.
There was a Citizen Kane comic? Sweet!
Citizen Kane went over the heads of the people critizing it. The whiney maggots who keep complaining about The Walking Dead should find something better to do with their time because they lack the imagination or empathy to enjoy the show.
"Unbelievably boring" does not accurately describe The Walking Dead, nor does "genius." Simple as that.
Personally I enjoy Walking Dead but I wouldn't call it genius. I would also agree the second half of the second season really started to drag before this last episode. They stayed on that farm way too damn long.
I've never experienced such a boring thread before.
M'yes, in my very own, very honest opinion I believe some people like things while others don't like those same things. Why? Because they can be "boring" and "repetitical" and "tedious." Is it because of lack of action scenes or slow plot? While, in my opinion, I may think that these may be reasons that...uh...wait, what did I come here to say?...Oh! "I thought this cartoon was funny." That was it. But why did I have the urge to try and sound smart and debate Citizen Kane then?
This little piggy went ennui ui ui all the way home.
Man, guys, it's almost like opinions are subjective or something. Crazy, I realize.