Hes an idiot cuz everyone know that making the statement "Everyone knows" would include "MoM" and then she couldnt be an idiot cuz she would know. natch ;)
No, to play magic you have to be a whiny little rich kid who's parents hand you hundreds of dollars so that you can buy the uber cards that you use to beat everyone who can't afford the really good cards.
I once stepped into a comic shop while there was a Magic torunament going on and I saw some kid walk in followed by his dad who was wheeling inside a handtruck loaded with ten cases of Magic cards.
Actually, the grades might be slipping if they were a genius. The work might not be stimulating enough and the kid might not pay attention in class. I doubt that's what's happening here, but I've seen it.
Are we talking about real genius, or dittohead genius?
@Pete: That's right. Like the character in the Mary-Sue-laden comic strip "Frazz" who does all his reading way ahead of time for his own pleasure, then spends class time obnoxiously interfering with his teacher and his classmates' education. (...Maybe not the most sympathetic example, though.)
Yes paying for a clone of the last winning deck at the last tournament takes a lot of brain cells. Instead it requires a lack of shame. Try playing against the modern magic player, they don't seem to be doing it for fun. All they do is this lame reptilian strategy where they buy the winning deck, use the winning strategy and win win win for their reptile brain.
If you want to play REAL magic, sealed decks are the way to go but it is an expensive experience but at least the competitors wasted a few brain cells trying to use their creativity to build a deck.
actually, playing magic was a big reason for my success in cs1901 "structures in computer programming" (the rules of magic are closely related to the structures you find in object oriented programming).
"No, to play magic you have to be a whiny little rich kid who's parents hand you hundreds of dollars so that you can buy the uber cards that you use to beat everyone who can't afford the really good cards."
Sure, competing at the tournament level can be expensive, but isn't that true for every hobby? How much does a quality tennis racquet cost? A racing bicycle? How much does it cost to restore a classic car?
The person you describe is one of the unpleasant stereotypes of Magic players. Like all stereotypes, it's based in the truth; my guess is you were the kid whose parents didn't want to invest a shitload of money so you could play in the tournament with all the other cool kids. But the vast majority of Magic players don't compete in tournaments, just like the vast majority of tennis players or cyclists. The bike Lance Armstrong rides probably cost fifteen grand, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun and get exercise on your shitty Wal Mart mountain bike.
Wasn’t Magic invented by a math teacher who wanted a game that required kids to have systematizing intelligence? It may not require a genius-level IQ, but it’s complicated enough that you’d have to have the right type of spatial/mathematical intelligence.
@Anonymous 3:45, the game won an award from Mensa, FWIW.
What does he think he's playing, bridge?
ReplyDeletePhil the Cat
My Mom told me I had to give up bridge until my grades improved...
ReplyDeleteClearly he has M:tG confused with the Battletech CCG.
ReplyDeleteI play "MAGIC" under a bridge with the rest of the trolls :)
ReplyDeleteHow old were these kids?
ReplyDeleteHes an idiot cuz everyone know that making the statement "Everyone knows" would include "MoM" and then she couldnt be an idiot cuz she would know. natch ;)
ReplyDeleteEveryone knows your grades wouldn't be slipping if you were a genius.
ReplyDeleteNo, to play magic you have to be a whiny little rich kid who's parents hand you hundreds of dollars so that you can buy the uber cards that you use to beat everyone who can't afford the really good cards.
ReplyDelete"Basically have to be a genius" to play Magic. Hmmm...
ReplyDeleteSo when they're recruiting scientists and such for various think tanks, the first question they ask is, "Do you play Magic?"
Mensa is full of Magic players?
I learn so much from this site.
I once stepped into a comic shop while there was a Magic torunament going on and I saw some kid walk in followed by his dad who was wheeling inside a handtruck loaded with ten cases of Magic cards.
ReplyDeleteDon't use that tone of voice with ME, young man!
ReplyDeleteActually, the grades might be slipping if they were a genius. The work might not be stimulating enough and the kid might not pay attention in class. I doubt that's what's happening here, but I've seen it.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't a child?
ReplyDeleteAre we talking about real genius, or dittohead genius?
ReplyDelete@Pete: That's right. Like the character in the Mary-Sue-laden comic strip "Frazz" who does all his reading way ahead of time for his own pleasure, then spends class time obnoxiously interfering with his teacher and his classmates' education. (...Maybe not the most sympathetic example, though.)
Yes paying for a clone of the last winning deck at the last tournament takes a lot of brain cells. Instead it requires a lack of shame. Try playing against the modern magic player, they don't seem to be doing it for fun. All they do is this lame reptilian strategy where they buy the winning deck, use the winning strategy and win win win for their reptile brain.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to play REAL magic, sealed decks are the way to go but it is an expensive experience but at least the competitors wasted a few brain cells trying to use their creativity to build a deck.
@Pete...um,yeah he's so bright he can no longer compute 1+1=2 cuz it's just not stimulating enough or perhaps he does not like green eggs and ham! :p
ReplyDeleteNow, if he's not talking about the card game, then perhaps his statement is true.
ReplyDeleteactually, playing magic was a big reason for my success in cs1901 "structures in computer programming" (the rules of magic are closely related to the structures you find in object oriented programming).
ReplyDelete@7:55 Anon: That depends if his casting stat is intelligence or charisma.
ReplyDelete"No, to play magic you have to be a whiny little rich kid who's parents hand you hundreds of dollars so that you can buy the uber cards that you use to beat everyone who can't afford the really good cards."
ReplyDeleteSure, competing at the tournament level can be expensive, but isn't that true for every hobby? How much does a quality tennis racquet cost? A racing bicycle? How much does it cost to restore a classic car?
The person you describe is one of the unpleasant stereotypes of Magic players. Like all stereotypes, it's based in the truth; my guess is you were the kid whose parents didn't want to invest a shitload of money so you could play in the tournament with all the other cool kids. But the vast majority of Magic players don't compete in tournaments, just like the vast majority of tennis players or cyclists. The bike Lance Armstrong rides probably cost fifteen grand, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun and get exercise on your shitty Wal Mart mountain bike.
You can compete in tournaments where it's based on luck and skill and not money...it's called sealed deck. MTG FTW! :P
ReplyDeleteSomeone needs a time out.
ReplyDeleteif you want it to be more skill and less luck just draft. sealed is way more luck based than people will admit it to be
ReplyDeleteWasn’t Magic invented by a math teacher who wanted a game that required kids to have systematizing intelligence? It may not require a genius-level IQ, but it’s complicated enough that you’d have to have the right type of spatial/mathematical intelligence.
ReplyDelete@Anonymous 3:45, the game won an award from Mensa, FWIW.