Bah! Not the same at all. He never even *knew* his real parents! Pretty sure he identifies his "parents" as Mr. and Mrs. Kent...who he didn't have the misfortune of watching get gunned down in front of him..
Sorry, I guess I should have been more clear. My statement that Superman is not a trust fund baby, godlike powers aside, already makes him better than Batman imho.
I hate it when people play the orphan card with Superman. The man's had loving parents since infancy. You can't have some tragic loss when you've never gone without. Oh look at the starving malnourished man who's eaten like a king every day of his life. It's so tragic how as an infant they took his food source away only to immediately replace it with a more bountiful and nutrient-rich food source. Way to show the other malnourished people how to be strong and healthy.
Wow. Uhhhh...Superman's biological parents were killed on a planet he wasn't even on before he was old enough to remember that they even existed in the first place. And he was raised by two loving adoptive parents.
I think Batman was probably a lot more scarred by the whole witnessing his parent's bloody murder at a young age thing than the actual orphanhood dealy anyway.
I mean let's be real. The dude's like forty. Lots of people have dead parents at forty. I ain't never seen a Grandma Gordon. Children who witness murders and then never get proper therapy I imagine tend to get fucked up by this though. All the moreso when the murder victims are the children's parents and then the children never get inducted into a new loving and supportive family. I mean I'm no psychologist. Hell, I couldn't even really keep up with the intro to psych course. Just seems like the kind of thing that might effect a developing mind in ways not properly encompassed by what generally surrounds the loss of a loved one.
It's worse than that: from the Adam West TV show to Morrison's JLA to the JLA/JSA mini DC 2000 (AKA "DC Two Thousand" to avoid mix-ups), the death of Batman's parents has become his damn super-power.
There's also how Superman has the burden of having to preserve the legacy of an entire planet while Bruce only has to preserve the good name of the Wayne family.
Oh please. Neither of them have any burden or obligation to their dead family member/species beyond that which they choose to assign themselves. They both assign themselves very little. Clark spends far more time worrying about what his living parents who raised him would think than how his actions measure up to a bunch of strangers he never met who created their own demise. Krypton's a great legacy to preserve if he's looking to blow up Earth. Bruce spends far more time worrying about preventing the creation of more orphans today than how his actions as Bruce Wayne will reflect on the family name. At times he actively tarnishes the Wayne name with his ridiculous playboy antics just to preserve the good he does for the living as Batman.
This is missing the "shut up you idiot" tag; Superman's parents (depending on current continuity) are alive and well and living in Smallville. Way to $#!+ on every adopted person all at once, jackass; your "real parents" are the people who raise you.
Yeah, but . . . Huh. That's a pretty good point, actually. Damn.
ReplyDeleteBruce Wayne was right behind him when he said that. How embarrassing...
ReplyDeleteCould he be wearing a T-shirt of the T-Rex from the Bat Cave?
ReplyDeleteBah! Not the same at all. He never even *knew* his real parents! Pretty sure he identifies his "parents" as Mr. and Mrs. Kent...who he didn't have the misfortune of watching get gunned down in front of him..
ReplyDeleteAlso, Superman is not a trust fund baby.
ReplyDeleteI'd argue the vast array of god-like powers Supes was inherently born with sort of evens him up with Bruce's fortune.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I guess I should have been more clear. My statement that Superman is not a trust fund baby, godlike powers aside, already makes him better than Batman imho.
ReplyDeleteI hate it when people play the orphan card with Superman. The man's had loving parents since infancy. You can't have some tragic loss when you've never gone without. Oh look at the starving malnourished man who's eaten like a king every day of his life. It's so tragic how as an infant they took his food source away only to immediately replace it with a more bountiful and nutrient-rich food source. Way to show the other malnourished people how to be strong and healthy.
ReplyDeletePretty funny you'd go for that metaphor considering how well off the Wayne family is.
DeleteWow. Uhhhh...Superman's biological parents were killed on a planet he wasn't even on before he was old enough to remember that they even existed in the first place. And he was raised by two loving adoptive parents.
ReplyDeleteI think Batman was probably a lot more scarred by the whole witnessing his parent's bloody murder at a young age thing than the actual orphanhood dealy anyway.
DeleteI mean let's be real. The dude's like forty. Lots of people have dead parents at forty. I ain't never seen a Grandma Gordon. Children who witness murders and then never get proper therapy I imagine tend to get fucked up by this though. All the moreso when the murder victims are the children's parents and then the children never get inducted into a new loving and supportive family. I mean I'm no psychologist. Hell, I couldn't even really keep up with the intro to psych course. Just seems like the kind of thing that might effect a developing mind in ways not properly encompassed by what generally surrounds the loss of a loved one.
Because Alfred have a long child abuse expedient. Gotham Police sucks.
DeleteFunny how the Bat gets laid a lot more than Supes.
ReplyDeleteSo The Batman started the whole "dark, tortured, moody goth" thing to get chicks?
Delete's as good a reason as any.
DeleteSure works better than the whole overgrown boyscout ace reporter schtick. Hell, Jimmy Olsen gets laid more than Clark Kent.
Superman could get laid as much as he wanted if he wasn't mooning over Lois so much.
DeleteHe's dated MERMAIDS, ffs.
No doubt Supes tells himself that every night while masturbating supersonically into his Mattress of Solitude.
DeleteNot sure if it's even possible for Superman to be the MacDaddy even if he had supermodels throwing themselves at his feet.
Deletehttp://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html
Unless he had a kryptonite condom.
> Funny how the Bat gets laid a lot more than Supes.
DeletePerhaps because Superman is of another (i.e. nonhuman) specie, and the authors do not want to show bestiality too often in comic books...
Yes, that's right: Superman! The character so flawless and unbeatable they had to invent a glowing rock to make him interesting.
ReplyDeleteIt's worse than that: from the Adam West TV show to Morrison's JLA to the JLA/JSA mini DC 2000 (AKA "DC Two Thousand" to avoid mix-ups), the death of Batman's parents has become his damn super-power.
ReplyDeleteParents are the source of human mortality. Parents tie us to corporeal time and space. To be parentless is to be a god.
DeleteJust like Harry Potter! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
DeleteThere's also how Superman has the burden of having to preserve the legacy of an entire planet while Bruce only has to preserve the good name of the Wayne family.
ReplyDelete"Preserve the legacy of an entire planet". Stays in Metropolis.
DeleteOh please. Neither of them have any burden or obligation to their dead family member/species beyond that which they choose to assign themselves. They both assign themselves very little. Clark spends far more time worrying about what his living parents who raised him would think than how his actions measure up to a bunch of strangers he never met who created their own demise. Krypton's a great legacy to preserve if he's looking to blow up Earth. Bruce spends far more time worrying about preventing the creation of more orphans today than how his actions as Bruce Wayne will reflect on the family name. At times he actively tarnishes the Wayne name with his ridiculous playboy antics just to preserve the good he does for the living as Batman.
DeleteThis is missing the "shut up you idiot" tag; Superman's parents (depending on current continuity) are alive and well and living in Smallville. Way to $#!+ on every adopted person all at once, jackass; your "real parents" are the people who raise you.
ReplyDeleteAgreed! But does that make Alfred Bruce's dad?
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ReplyDeleteThat was meant as a response to the reply on TexasUberAlles comment
DeleteOne death and Superman flips his shit out. Batman just deals with it.
ReplyDeleteActually, Superman does. Just not as often. Just see anytime he goes to The Fortress of Solitude.
ReplyDeleteI would say that Dick Grayson is more suited in Superman's place in this situation.
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