For all the people nodding sagely and trying to be level-headed and progressive on OVC, Eschergirls, and any other number of places on the internets, the uncomfortable truth is that the bulk of nerddom is made up of creeps like this.
10:34 exactly. But I don't think there's anything uncomfortable about it at all. It actually seems very natural to me. A lot of nerds are nerds because they were outcasts during highschool or whatever. Those people might have been outcast for some justifiable reasons.
It makes perfect sense to me. I really don't have much of a problem with this guy being classified creepy, but I don't see anything rapey(what?) about him, nor is it really scary that people write comics where women's clothes get ripped off.
Anon 12:41: you can shout it from the rooftops if you like, but you're not going to make much of a dent in the numbers of creeps in nerddom. Like Worm says, it's the nature of the beast. You might make a few converts, but to others you'll just come across a bit over-preachy. ;)
Worm: I'm gettin' confused with no smileys to tell me if someone's joking or not!
I've had some experience with creeps like this, in a comic shop, even. I was on the retail side of things some years ago for a few months, working the counter at a comic shop for a summer and into early fall and while it was pretty routine for the most part there were some...moments. Like one day this dude comes in and asked for "that comic where Superman rapes Wonder Woman". No euphamisms for this guy, not trying to be sly about it, he just came out and asked for a comic where Superman raped Wonder Woman. He put a special joyful emphasis on the word "raped" that made me cringe and he was very unhappy I had no idea what he he was talking about and left empty-handed. I mean, he was very insistent and specific that this was a comic that featured Superman tying up WW with her lasso and proceeding to do things to her - my theory was this awful guy had seen some other awful guy's drawings on the internet and thought that it was an actual comic he wanted to go look for.
We are not to blamed for people's dorkiness or mental issues, but I feel like we, as fellow geeks, need to step up and give these people a bit of a reality check. Maybe no one has ever had the stones to actually say something to them.
I only just discovered this site, so... Hi, everyone.
Worm, I don't think YotaruVegeta was suggesting that we go around "stopping" internet creeps from doing creepy things. It's just that considering how many creeps there actually are within nerddom, it's important for the good ones to lift up the rock and point out the awful bullshit and denounce it from time to time (or all the time, really).
It's like when you observe people with different politics. If you take moderate conservatives and moderate liberals and put 'em in a room (or a cocktail party, because that's more fun), their conversations may be awkward, but they're still consistently moderate.
If you have just moderate conservatives or just moderate liberals, shit gets cray-cray, as the kids say. It's an echo chamber, or feeback or some shit.
If the creeps just hang out with other creeps, they start to think that their creepy, rape-fantasy bullshit is normal and okay. We need to call them out on it to remind them that it's not.
I use to hang out at a comic shop all the time and some of my friends were always looking for the messed up comics. There is a comic where the JLA all have horrible vices, some are on hardcore drugs, Superman does rape Wonder Woman. I've been trying to figure out the name of the series just so I can prove it exists. don't think I would actually buy it though, not really my style.
Followed closely by the ones where the girl takes her clothes off in the middle of a fight.
ReplyDeleteWhich publisher did those again??
Apparently this guy is a fan of Avatar Press or WildStorm.
ReplyDeleteZenescope!
DeleteZenescope, because a publisher was needed that makes Avatar Press look almost classy in comparison.
DeleteSomeone's been at the hentai books again...
ReplyDeleteWell it doesnt hurt. . .
ReplyDeleteCreepy rapey fan is creepy and rapey.
ReplyDeleteYou took the words right out of my mouth.
DeleteWell, at least he knows what he likes....
ReplyDeleteThe slightly raised lower lid just completely sells this comic for me.
ReplyDeleteOh man, I have some shitty manga for this guy to read. He's going to be so excited. Tenjou Tenge is going to blow his mind!
ReplyDeleteWell maybe one day we can get all the creeps out of nerddom.
ReplyDeleteFor all the people nodding sagely and trying to be level-headed and progressive on OVC, Eschergirls, and any other number of places on the internets, the uncomfortable truth is that the bulk of nerddom is made up of creeps like this.
DeleteSo...we should just be quiet then?
Delete10:34 exactly. But I don't think there's anything uncomfortable about it at all. It actually seems very natural to me. A lot of nerds are nerds because they were outcasts during highschool or whatever. Those people might have been outcast for some justifiable reasons.
DeleteIt makes perfect sense to me. I really don't have much of a problem with this guy being classified creepy, but I don't see anything rapey(what?) about him, nor is it really scary that people write comics where women's clothes get ripped off.
I'm guessing the rapey comes in where the girl doesn't like what's happening but comes around later.
DeleteAnon 12:41: you can shout it from the rooftops if you like, but you're not going to make much of a dent in the numbers of creeps in nerddom. Like Worm says, it's the nature of the beast. You might make a few converts, but to others you'll just come across a bit over-preachy. ;)
DeleteWorm: I'm gettin' confused with no smileys to tell me if someone's joking or not!
Nice to know someone still buys Witchblade.
ReplyDeleteGetting one's clothes ripped off is an acquired taste.
ReplyDeleteThank you. I was waiting for someone to comment on the baffling "but then she does like it" aspect.
DeleteWhat's actually scary is that so many comics seem to be made specifically for this guy's fetish.
ReplyDeleteHe's merely a misunderstood nudist who enjoys stories about women learning to appreciate the joys of nudity.
ReplyDeleteThis needs an "it's true" tag.
ReplyDeleteTroll detected
DeleteYeah, that was kind of obvious. I promise I'll try to get better.
DeleteHe would like 50 Shades of Grey.
ReplyDeleteI've had some experience with creeps like this, in a comic shop, even. I was on the retail side of things some years ago for a few months, working the counter at a comic shop for a summer and into early fall and while it was pretty routine for the most part there were some...moments.
ReplyDeleteLike one day this dude comes in and asked for "that comic where Superman rapes Wonder Woman". No euphamisms for this guy, not trying to be sly about it, he just came out and asked for a comic where Superman raped Wonder Woman. He put a special joyful emphasis on the word "raped" that made me cringe and he was very unhappy I had no idea what he he was talking about and left empty-handed.
I mean, he was very insistent and specific that this was a comic that featured Superman tying up WW with her lasso and proceeding to do things to her - my theory was this awful guy had seen some other awful guy's drawings on the internet and thought that it was an actual comic he wanted to go look for.
Who rule 34 was made for.
DeleteWe are not to blamed for people's dorkiness or mental issues, but I feel like we, as fellow geeks, need to step up and give these people a bit of a reality check. Maybe no one has ever had the stones to actually say something to them.
This seems like a lot of work to stop people from putting up badly drawn Superman rape comics on the Internet.
DeleteI only just discovered this site, so... Hi, everyone.
DeleteWorm, I don't think YotaruVegeta was suggesting that we go around "stopping" internet creeps from doing creepy things. It's just that considering how many creeps there actually are within nerddom, it's important for the good ones to lift up the rock and point out the awful bullshit and denounce it from time to time (or all the time, really).
It's like when you observe people with different politics. If you take moderate conservatives and moderate liberals and put 'em in a room (or a cocktail party, because that's more fun), their conversations may be awkward, but they're still consistently moderate.
If you have just moderate conservatives or just moderate liberals, shit gets cray-cray, as the kids say. It's an echo chamber, or feeback or some shit.
If the creeps just hang out with other creeps, they start to think that their creepy, rape-fantasy bullshit is normal and okay. We need to call them out on it to remind them that it's not.
I use to hang out at a comic shop all the time and some of my friends were always looking for the messed up comics. There is a comic where the JLA all have horrible vices, some are on hardcore drugs, Superman does rape Wonder Woman. I've been trying to figure out the name of the series just so I can prove it exists. don't think I would actually buy it though, not really my style.
DeletePeople still read Tarot?
ReplyDeleteWell you're bound to get a lot of sexualization if your protagonist is dressed in tight fitting spandex.
ReplyDeleteFunny, I don't see a lot of sexualization of guys in tight fitting spandex.
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