December 4, 2011

To his friend while discussing how BATMAN could be more realistic...

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  1. Actually, that is an astute question.

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  2. Yeah, I thought those millionaires were supposed to be job creators?!?!

    #OCCUPY GOTHAM

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  3. You mean like Batman Incorporated? What a genius idea! GENIUS!!!! This guy should email DC, stat!

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  4. Captain Salamander12/04/2011 11:51 AM

    No, not like Batman Incorporated. Like that alcoholic playboy, Tony Stark - didn't he hire someone nicknamed Iron Man?

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  5. "Let me train my entire life to the peek of physical and mental capabilities. Only then will I be able to hire someone else to achieve the vengeance I've always wanted to get for the death of my parents."

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  6. Isn't this the whole premise of Batman Beyond?

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  7. A better question would be "Why doesn't he just clone himself?" and the answer is that he does.

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  8. Captain Salamander12/04/2011 1:15 PM

    Again, no. Batman Beyond isn't about old Bruce finding someone to be Batman (besides, Bruce isn't a millionair in Batman Beyond, not anymore). Batman Beyond is about someone dragging old Bruce out of his depression and becoming Batman despite Bruce's protests.

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  9. Captain Salamander12/04/2011 1:36 PM

    Wait, what? When did Batman clone himself?

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  10. Terry's a clone of Batman. It's explained in Justice League Unlimited. He finds out around the time he's an adult, and proposing to Dana. Aparently, Amanda Waller thought Batman was a necessary thing in the world, so she had Bruce's DNA put in Terry's mother. Then, she hired the Phantasm (the chick from the kickass BTAS movie) to kill his parents so he'd be Batman. She refused. Waller thought it was heartless too. But destiny followed its course, and he became Batman. Bruce found out later but never told him. Terry gets mad at him, but later understands.

    Bruce is Terry's father, basically.

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  11. Bruce Wayne wasn't involved, and he's not a true clone, so it's not true that Batman cloned himself.

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  12. Captain Salamander12/04/2011 4:39 PM

    Doctor Tarr's right. Terry is NOT a clone. Because of Waller's genetic tampering with Warren McGinnis Bruce is the biological father of both Terry and Matt. A clone would be someone with the same DNA as Bruce.
    Somehow this episode tends to confuse people.

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  13. Honestly it has puzzled me a little. I mean the guy could have become Batman years earlier if he just trained to be the world's greatest detective and hired five or six discreet specialists to be the muscle when he's fighting crime.

    Might've even been more efficient, since as one man he's only ever been capable of being in one place at a time. We all know that as the brains of the outfit he's capable of solving a multitude of problems at once though. It's all fine and dandy to say that he doesn't trust anyone with his mission, but he's had like what, 47 kid side-kicks? Might've gotten more bang for his buck if he'd spent all that money that went towards feeding and clothing all those children on a handful of mercs instead. Not that he couldn't afford to do both obviously.

    For that matter, when he's fighting mercenary criminals, wouldn't it be a whole lot simpler if he just enlisted them? Deadshot, Slade Wilson, Philo Zeiss. Just bring them all aboard. You can afford to outbid their current employers, so why spend all this time fighting them instead of moving on to crimes that aren't so easily solved?

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  14. I don't think having a sidekick was the purpose of keeping those kids around and feeding and clothing them. Dick Grayson (12 years old!)...

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  15. Sounds kind of like Star from the early years of Savage Dragon.

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  16. Captain Salamander12/04/2011 8:21 PM

    Well, he didn't want just to solve crimes, he wanted revenge. So, naturally, he wanted all that action for himself.

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  17. just realized that this customer's t-shirt also poses a very good question: what would a hockey mask do?

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  18. @Anon 12/04/2011 12:16 PM: "peak"

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  19. I'm...starting to realize that it may be impossible to think up a batman idea that is too silly AND not already done.

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  20. So...no one else has brought up the fact that batman is completely delusional/probably insane and that his craziness causes him to become the batman.

    Evidence: in batman beyond when he is being "driven crazy", he knew he was 'sane' because in his head he calls himself batman, not Bruce.(identity issue much?)

    He can't kill people - despite the joker beating his sidekick to death and various criminals attempting to murder him all the time.

    He continuously risks his life to fight street crime that could just as easily be done by an employee.

    + various other examples.

    Batman doesn't think like rational people. Probably why he is such a good detective.

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  21. You heard it here first. folks! We need to start recruiting our detectives from the psych ward.

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  22. That show's on CBS every Thursday night already. It's called Person of Interest.

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  23. Captain Salamander12/07/2011 6:13 AM

    Dude... killing people because they're trying to kill you? Like Grandma Flash used to say, "An eye for an eye results in a whole bunch of blind people".
    But I suppose you're more of a fan of that mindless serial ki- I mean, the Punisher.

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  24. didn't say batman should start killing people. He can't. What I meant was he will put his own personal moral code above anything else, like if he was put in a situation where if he killed nine kids, one would survive, but if he didn't they were all guaranteed to die. Batman would let the kids die before breaking his moral code. You can't tell me that batman doesn't have severe emotional trauma that he tries to fix by being the batman.

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  25. Captain Salamander12/07/2011 3:12 PM

    Ah, that falls quite nicely under Isaac Asimov's First Law of Robotechnics. Robot can't harm a human being or let human be harmed by inaction. But what if inaction would lead to many humans being harmed, while harming one human would prevent this? As old Isaac himself put it, the robot would probably decide to harm the human - and then his positronic brain would be irreversibly damaged.
    Probably something like that would happen to Batman in such a situation. Maybe. Depends on the author, I suppose.

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  26. Why?...because Bruce Wayne used to be an ordinary Millionaire till he took a bullet to the parents.

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