Personally, I found Hughes documentary "Sweet Sixteen" to be more interesting. It chronicled a day in the life of a young teenage girl on her sixteenth birthday.
And as already said, Devil Wears Prada is a shitty "alt metal" (translation: shitty emo) band. Basically, take like five twenty-something males, cover their bodies with a ridiculous amount of tattoos (and not very good ones at that), give at least one or two of them bangs that sweep over the front of their faces and dress them in random clothes from Hot Topic. Finally, have the lead singer scream words into a mic while the rest of the band plays what sounds like something shoving a piece of metal into a garbage disposal.
John Hughes is so indie. I'd say no film better captures the slacker outlook of the early 90s than that self-budgeted classic Home Alone. And the societal uneased excitement over the new personal computer was dutifully represented in Weird Science.
You may have missed the sarcasm dripping from these comments, so I'll be more direct.
I was there. I was a teenager in the 80's and I gotta tell you, John Hughes may be somewhat iconic, but he's defiantly NOT indie. In fact, based on your T-shirt I feel safe in saying that no one you've ever heard of is indie. Ever heard of David Lynch or Kevin Smith or Gus Van Sant?...
Also, show more respect to your mother and try thinking for a few seconds before you open you gob and spew something so stupid.
Wait, Kevin Smith is Indie? That can't be right. He's Clerks and Dogma and he's charmingly funny and personable without a script. He's Silent Bob of Jay and Silent Bob. He's all recognizable and shit, plus super-awesome to boot. How does that work?
somewhat subjective. some people would say that the only distinction is who the owners/investors are. some might say that there's an aesthetic distinction between an indie movie and the products of the media conglomerates (about 5 or 6 of them run the major studio system in hollywood). but the mainstream eventually appropriates every independent, underground, or counterculture aesthetic, so the aesthetic distinction can be pretty vague (or nonexistent). as well, there are plenty of companies that can be difficult to place in the discreet categories of major or indie... so are they big indies, or little majors? if we only go by the "made by anyone who isn't a supermassive media conglomerate" delineation, then we have to accept that the something like the star wars series (only the first was produced by a big media conglomerate) qualifies as "indie film."
I'd say there's a distinction between "indie" and "independant". Where George Lucas is clearly the most successful independant film-maker of all time, he's also they guy who pretty much invented movie merchandising. That kind of flies in the face of the whole, "I'm going to make it even though the only people who are ever likely to watch it have seen my baby pictures" that is the foundation of indie filmmaking.
well she used the term incorrectly and that's kind of funny, but it begs the question "why does it matter if kids nowadays don't know the difference anymore, and just use it as a generic synonym for 'cool'?"
the word is a throwback to an era when there was a huge difference between the aesthetics & distribution methods of independent media and mainstream media. with the advent of internet retail & digital distribution and the mainstream's increasing embrace of independent aesthetics, "indie vs major" distinctions are becoming less relevant with every passing year.
so how can we fault kids who don't know & don't remember what it was like to be a fan who had to stay up & listen to the radio at 2AM to find out about obscure new music, or correspond with indie artists/publishers & other fans via snail mail to get into the loop, make all your media purchases through mail order catalogues because the local brick & mortar retailers didn't stock anything you wanted, etc? the girl in the picture grew up in a more convenient world than some of us did... but that's okay, IMO!
I've admittedly mistakenly referred to both The Three Amigos and Big Trouble in Little China as obscure titles in the past. None of my friends had heard of them, and they seemed low-budget. I just assumed.
I can just picture Mom after this comment laughing so hard she has to lean on you which will be embarrassing to you for the wrong reasons, and in ten years you'll be able to laugh about it too. . .
I suppose she wears this cute little t-shirt because she liked the book, then?
ReplyDeleteit's only good if no one else knows about it
ReplyDeleteI wish I could hate people like this to death.
ReplyDeleteActually, Devil Wears Prada is also a terrible rock band. This person has zero taste.
ReplyDeleteA CHRISTIAN rock band at that
ReplyDeleteAnyone got a copy of "The Last American Virgin"?
ReplyDeleteYeah, nothing says indie flick like a John Hughes film.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to hear how she defines "independent". Independent of competent adult supervision? That covers a large number of John Hughes films.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations!
ReplyDeletePersonally, I found Hughes documentary "Sweet Sixteen" to be more interesting. It chronicled a day in the life of a young teenage girl on her sixteenth birthday.
ReplyDeleteAnd as already said, Devil Wears Prada is a shitty "alt metal" (translation: shitty emo) band. Basically, take like five twenty-something males, cover their bodies with a ridiculous amount of tattoos (and not very good ones at that), give at least one or two of them bangs that sweep over the front of their faces and dress them in random clothes from Hot Topic. Finally, have the lead singer scream words into a mic while the rest of the band plays what sounds like something shoving a piece of metal into a garbage disposal.
Boom, you've got an alt metal band.
@Doctor Tarr:
ReplyDeleteAmen, Brother!
So Devil Wears Prada is a shitty squared emo band?
ReplyDeleteCool.
Just because it's 30 years old, doesn't mean it's alternative. Just look at Congress!
ReplyDeleteOUCH.
DeleteHa!
ReplyDeleteJohn Hughes is so indie. I'd say no film better captures the slacker outlook of the early 90s than that self-budgeted classic Home Alone. And the societal uneased excitement over the new personal computer was dutifully represented in Weird Science.
Little girl,
ReplyDeleteYou may have missed the sarcasm dripping from these comments, so I'll be more direct.
I was there. I was a teenager in the 80's and I gotta tell you, John Hughes may be somewhat iconic, but he's defiantly NOT indie. In fact, based on your T-shirt I feel safe in saying that no one you've ever heard of is indie. Ever heard of David Lynch or Kevin Smith or Gus Van Sant?...
Also, show more respect to your mother and try thinking for a few seconds before you open you gob and spew something so stupid.
Wait, Kevin Smith is Indie? That can't be right. He's Clerks and Dogma and he's charmingly funny and personable without a script. He's Silent Bob of Jay and Silent Bob. He's all recognizable and shit, plus super-awesome to boot. How does that work?
ReplyDeleteClerks was an indie film. 100%. Maybe you're being sarcastic?
ReplyDeleteNot sure I'd call Kevin Smith 'funny', but he is personable, reasonable, and successful. He probably shouldn't be lumped in with the indie crowd.
In movies, "indie" just means independent of a large movie studio instead of made by a large movie studio, right?
ReplyDeletesomewhat subjective. some people would say that the only distinction is who the owners/investors are. some might say that there's an aesthetic distinction between an indie movie and the products of the media conglomerates (about 5 or 6 of them run the major studio system in hollywood). but the mainstream eventually appropriates every independent, underground, or counterculture aesthetic, so the aesthetic distinction can be pretty vague (or nonexistent). as well, there are plenty of companies that can be difficult to place in the discreet categories of major or indie... so are they big indies, or little majors? if we only go by the "made by anyone who isn't a supermassive media conglomerate" delineation, then we have to accept that the something like the star wars series (only the first was produced by a big media conglomerate) qualifies as "indie film."
ReplyDeleteKevin Smith being described as "charmingly funny" is the most embarrassing thing posted in this comment section, chock full of embarrassing comments.
ReplyDeleteThe dudes trying to belittle a teenager who'll likely never witness this strip comes fairly close, though.
2:35 - this springs to mind.
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@Anon 12:34:
ReplyDeleteI'd say there's a distinction between "indie" and "independant". Where George Lucas is clearly the most successful independant film-maker of all time, he's also they guy who pretty much invented movie merchandising. That kind of flies in the face of the whole, "I'm going to make it even though the only people who are ever likely to watch it have seen my baby pictures" that is the foundation of indie filmmaking.
See, when people can't even agree on what the term means, that's how we the girl in the picture.
ReplyDeletewell she used the term incorrectly and that's kind of funny, but it begs the question "why does it matter if kids nowadays don't know the difference anymore, and just use it as a generic synonym for 'cool'?"
ReplyDeletethe word is a throwback to an era when there was a huge difference between the aesthetics & distribution methods of independent media and mainstream media. with the advent of internet retail & digital distribution and the mainstream's increasing embrace of independent aesthetics, "indie vs major" distinctions are becoming less relevant with every passing year.
so how can we fault kids who don't know & don't remember what it was like to be a fan who had to stay up & listen to the radio at 2AM to find out about obscure new music, or correspond with indie artists/publishers & other fans via snail mail to get into the loop, make all your media purchases through mail order catalogues because the local brick & mortar retailers didn't stock anything you wanted, etc? the girl in the picture grew up in a more convenient world than some of us did... but that's okay, IMO!
I've admittedly mistakenly referred to both The Three Amigos and Big Trouble in Little China as obscure titles in the past. None of my friends had heard of them, and they seemed low-budget. I just assumed.
ReplyDeleteBut Kevin Smith sucks.
ReplyDeleteThe Three Amigos was an all-star, highly-advertised movie. And it was a huge disappointment.
ReplyDeleteSomeday this customer’s daughter will be telling her she’s never heard of indie movies like Twilight.
ReplyDeleteI can just picture Mom after this comment laughing so hard she has to lean on you which will be embarrassing to you for the wrong reasons, and in ten years you'll be able to laugh about it too. . .
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