One of my favorite things is how much of cowards the thugs are reveald to be in the Punsiher comics.
Id like a Punisher movie that portrays him more like a Mike Myers figure from the perspective of a low level thug in a Crime family.
Maybe we could play it for some sympathy. Maybe the thug hates what he has to do. He hates the drug trade. He hates dealing with prostitution and the conditions he sees these women in. But he has an obligation to the family. And he has his own family to feed and worry about. But he hates himsel.
He has a run in with Frank Castle at one of the any operations he has a hand in and barely escapes with his life. or something I don't know.
But An unstoppable single minded force that just keeps coming and keeps killing. Sounds like a horror movie monster to me.
Garth Ennis made an excellent run on The Punisher during the last decade. It started on the Marvel Knights imprint, where it was a black humor series, and then he went to the MAX imprint. Most of the stories were really exciting, disturbing and thought-provoking.
Anon 12:07 is right, Tom Jane spent his early days in Hollywood sucking men off for drug money.
The Punisher is a great character, unfortunately the common understanding of Frank Castle is "Gun totting maniac" which couldn't be further from the truth. Even some writers screw this up, usually in guest appearances, only to helping to perpetuate the skewed perspective of a character that has been and can be very complex.
What's so complex about a gun-totting maniac escapes my understanding. I must admit, though, that Punisher's guest appearance in the Runaways was very enjoyable.
I agree. There should be more stories told from the perspective of the 'bad guys'. I've long wanted to see a story in which Kingpin is the protagonist, going against Spider-Man and Dare Devil.
I've actually written the outline for such a story, but I'm hardly the only one, and unless Marvel is interested, it's just 'fan fiction'.
@Captain Salamander, reread the second line in the comment you're replying to. Maybe you disagree, but you might want to start off by saying that, or I'll think you can't read. No offense intended, I've got no emotional stake in Frank Castle. Just putting it out there.
That's cute. How great was the Green Reynolds movie? "Gun Totters" have to use their minds much more than powered heroes since they have nothing else to fall back on. Sure he shoots people, but with out a brilliant mind behind that gun he would be nothing. Frank Castle's mind and his knowledge of how to apply force is what makes him a danger. Castle is not weighed down by moral dilemmas, his personal life does not stop him, his life is a war; and he has been winning from the start. GPA
There is a slight difference between situations with Punisher and the X-Men - the Punisher is usually one and the same guy, while the X-Men have an ever-changing team roster.
2. The first Punisher movie (Dolph Lundgren’s) is liveable. It’s not really a Punisher movie, but it’s a watchable action movie about a quasi-Punisher-like character.
3. The other movies were not as good as the first one.
4. I like the Punisher, and yet I do feel sorry for some of the bad guys.
One of my favorite things is how much of cowards the thugs are reveald to be in the Punsiher comics.
ReplyDeleteId like a Punisher movie that portrays him more like a Mike Myers figure from the perspective of a low level thug in a Crime family.
Maybe we could play it for some sympathy. Maybe the thug hates what he has to do. He hates the drug trade. He hates dealing with prostitution and the conditions he sees these women in. But he has an obligation to the family. And he has his own family to feed and worry about. But he hates himsel.
He has a run in with Frank Castle at one of the any operations he has a hand in and barely escapes with his life. or something I don't know.
But An unstoppable single minded force that just keeps coming and keeps killing. Sounds like a horror movie monster to me.
Actually, it's the movies AND the Punisher that suck.
ReplyDeletePreach it, brother Anon@11:04!
ReplyDeleteAs long as it's clear that Tom Jane DOESN'T suck.
ReplyDeleteI think PUNISHER WAR ZONE is a special kind of great.
ReplyDeleteGarth Ennis made an excellent run on The Punisher during the last decade. It started on the Marvel Knights imprint, where it was a black humor series, and then he went to the MAX imprint. Most of the stories were really exciting, disturbing and thought-provoking.
ReplyDeleteIt's true. Punisher does suck.
ReplyDelete"See you later, Frankie".
Tom Jane literally sucks, he admitted he was a gay prostitute.
ReplyDeleteAnon 12:07 is right, Tom Jane spent his early days in Hollywood sucking men off for drug money.
ReplyDeleteThe Punisher is a great character, unfortunately the common understanding of Frank Castle is "Gun totting maniac" which couldn't be further from the truth. Even some writers screw this up, usually in guest appearances, only to helping to perpetuate the skewed perspective of a character that has been and can be very complex.
Pfft, says the guy in a Green Lantern t-shirt.
ReplyDeleteI liked the old Punisher movie with Dolph Lundgren...
ReplyDelete"Who sent you?"
"Batman."
What's so complex about a gun-totting maniac escapes my understanding. I must admit, though, that Punisher's guest appearance in the Runaways was very enjoyable.
ReplyDelete@ Anon 10:44
ReplyDeleteI agree. There should be more stories told from the perspective of the 'bad guys'. I've long wanted to see a story in which Kingpin is the protagonist, going against Spider-Man and Dare Devil.
I've actually written the outline for such a story, but I'm hardly the only one, and unless Marvel is interested, it's just 'fan fiction'.
@Captain Salamander, reread the second line in the comment you're replying to. Maybe you disagree, but you might want to start off by saying that, or I'll think you can't read. No offense intended, I've got no emotional stake in Frank Castle. Just putting it out there.
ReplyDeleteIt's okay, dude. You may think that I can't read, and I'll think that Frankie is a gun-totting maniac, and we'll call it even.
ReplyDeleteI hate gun totters.
ReplyDeleteThat's cute. How great was the Green Reynolds movie? "Gun Totters" have to use their minds much more than powered heroes since they have nothing else to fall back on. Sure he shoots people, but with out a brilliant mind behind that gun he would be nothing. Frank Castle's mind and his knowledge of how to apply force is what makes him a danger. Castle is not weighed down by moral dilemmas, his personal life does not stop him, his life is a war; and he has been winning from the start. GPA
ReplyDeletelabel it with "it's true." then make a copy of the cartoon and replace "punisher" with "x-men" and label that one "it's true" too.
ReplyDeleteThere is a slight difference between situations with Punisher and the X-Men - the Punisher is usually one and the same guy, while the X-Men have an ever-changing team roster.
ReplyDeleteThere's a trope for depictions of heroes from the evil henchman's point of view: Mook Horror Show. Standard TVTropes warnings apply.
ReplyDeleteIs "gun-totting" the practice of giving firearms to children? I'm confused.
ReplyDeleteNo, it's the practice of making a typo, Mr. Troll.
ReplyDeletehttp://ourvaluedcustomers.blogspot.com/2010/03/on-subtle-nuances-of-murderer-in-skull.htm
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone of you fellows know this guy?
1. The Punisher (the character) is good.
ReplyDelete2. The first Punisher movie (Dolph Lundgren’s) is liveable. It’s not really a Punisher movie, but it’s a watchable action movie about a quasi-Punisher-like character.
3. The other movies were not as good as the first one.
4. I like the Punisher, and yet I do feel sorry for some of the bad guys.
I have felt this way since 1986.
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