I'm going to be honest here, I kind of do agree with him, not the sad thing, but killing the kids. Those kids are really annoying. Actually, more to the point I would've preferred anyone but Johnny to be killed off.
This "3" story would totally screw up the MC2 universe continuity if Johnny wasn't probably already slated for a confusing yet heroic resurrection in less than two years.
I thought Johnny was an odd choice too. Not that I really know, but I would think that the majority of their key demographic lives vicariously through Johnny (good looking guy, superhero, gets a lot of women). If I was a 15 year old kid reading FF, I'd want to be Johnny Storm.
I actually thought that Johnny was the obvious choice exactly because he's so popular. The whole point of killing off one of the FF is to get people to buy the books. I think getting rid of Johnny with a wink and a nod that he'll be back means that more people will start following the series to see how and when he'll come back.
...Yeaa..ask DC Comics how well killing off a kid turned out in Cry For Justice and the crapfest that followed. Plus, if Marvel were to do it just to get back to a former Stat quo would be incredibly stupid on their part..then again both Marvel and DC seem to be about returning to old stat quos...
You know, I can certainly see where the loss of one of the children would lead to some interesting storytelling - what it might do to the group, Reed's sense of responsibility to humanity-at-large versus is sense of responsibility to his family, all of the inherent soul-searching that comes with such a loss - and mean there's a lot of potential for narrative depth there. But if that's what you mean, then say THAT; don't say what this guy said.
@ Donovan: Better yet, DON'T ask DC. They think the negative reaction to Lian's death meant that the story was deeply moving. DC can't tell the difference between "upset because the scene was tragic" and "upset because the scene was hackneyed and gratuitious."
@Anonymous #5: You beat me by 2 years then, I'm 42 myself.... and german... so you see nobody in my vicinity understand at all what I see in US comics ;)
@Tyler: You got a point there, but she IS rather hot when she is not invisible ;)
From a personally uninvolved storytelling perspective, yeah, dead kids make for great drama. We can hope he's not thinking about the characters as real people. . .unlike the majority of people seen in these cartoons.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's the DC exec who said, "Youse guys should end that Gay Fer Justice book with a dead kid!"
ReplyDeleteI'm going to be honest here, I kind of do agree with him, not the sad thing, but killing the kids. Those kids are really annoying. Actually, more to the point I would've preferred anyone but Johnny to be killed off.
ReplyDeleteKilling both kids would have been surprising, and returned the book to its roots, albeit with grief and trauma in the mix.
ReplyDeleteFantastic Four: One More Day - Coming 2012
ReplyDeleteLet me know when he comes back from the dead in 12 months to boost sales.
ReplyDeleteThis "3" story would totally screw up the MC2 universe continuity if Johnny wasn't probably already slated for a confusing yet heroic resurrection in less than two years.
ReplyDeleteI thought Johnny was an odd choice too. Not that I really know, but I would think that the majority of their key demographic lives vicariously through Johnny (good looking guy, superhero, gets a lot of women). If I was a 15 year old kid reading FF, I'd want to be Johnny Storm.
ReplyDelete15 year old kids don't read comics, 30 year old kids do. And they want to be as smart and wealthy as Reed is, as funny as Ben and want to look at Sue.
ReplyDeleteShit! How long am I gonna be a 30 year old kid! Apparently I've already been one since... well... about 14... dammit.
ReplyDeleteWait. Someone reads ff?
ReplyDeleteI actually thought that Johnny was the obvious choice exactly because he's so popular. The whole point of killing off one of the FF is to get people to buy the books. I think getting rid of Johnny with a wink and a nod that he'll be back means that more people will start following the series to see how and when he'll come back.
ReplyDelete...Yeaa..ask DC Comics how well killing off a kid turned out in Cry For Justice and the crapfest that followed. Plus, if Marvel were to do it just to get back to a former Stat quo would be incredibly stupid on their part..then again both Marvel and DC seem to be about returning to old stat quos...
ReplyDelete@ Starocotes--Why would you want to look at Sue? I'd want to look at a woman I could SEE. :P
ReplyDeleteWow...every time I read the comments to these I think that there could be a related blog of 'Our Valued Comments.'
ReplyDeleteYou know, I can certainly see where the loss of one of the children would lead to some interesting storytelling - what it might do to the group, Reed's sense of responsibility to humanity-at-large versus is sense of responsibility to his family, all of the inherent soul-searching that comes with such a loss - and mean there's a lot of potential for narrative depth there. But if that's what you mean, then say THAT; don't say what this guy said.
ReplyDelete@ Donovan: Better yet, DON'T ask DC. They think the negative reaction to Lian's death meant that the story was deeply moving. DC can't tell the difference between "upset because the scene was tragic" and "upset because the scene was hackneyed and gratuitious."
ReplyDelete@Anonymous #5: You beat me by 2 years then, I'm 42 myself.... and german... so you see nobody in my vicinity understand at all what I see in US comics ;)
ReplyDelete@Tyler: You got a point there, but she IS rather hot when she is not invisible ;)
From a personally uninvolved storytelling perspective, yeah, dead kids make for great drama. We can hope he's not thinking about the characters as real people. . .unlike the majority of people seen in these cartoons.
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