tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post4251732072563517250..comments2023-10-31T05:55:49.429-04:00Comments on OUR VALUED CUSTOMERS: While discussing his recent break-up...MRTIMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04716101491557959174noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-80137574773050239492013-04-29T06:20:14.055-04:002013-04-29T06:20:14.055-04:00"The last time it spiraled out of control, we..."The last time it spiraled out of control, we lost some good posters."<br />"Because most of the ones we lost didn't post as Anonymous."<br /><br />http://youtu.be/6uS5xPWfxPY?t=24sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-80830354344872507682013-04-17T10:18:47.704-04:002013-04-17T10:18:47.704-04:00We did get really good stuff. I'm talking as f...We did get really good stuff. I'm talking as fair as mainstream friendly content is concerned, not the somewhat smaller stuff with less appeal.<br /><br /><br />Just like any film or television, the great stuff is what the general public isn't into. For example, people are still watching Naruto (I like Naruto more than most, but the show does itself no service with the fillers and padding. My queue of episodes grows) but I am dying for people to watch something thought-provoking and atypical, like From The New World, and not that many people are talking about it. Not even anime critics are, really. YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-60671588340008000802013-04-17T01:29:50.587-04:002013-04-17T01:29:50.587-04:00> so we got the best that had to be offered
Hah...> so we got the best that had to be offered<br />Hahahahahahaha!<br /><br />No.<br /><br />Not from the official, licensed routes anyways. That's one of the reasons why anime has such a negative reputation among most people in America. The only good stuff being imported was for the niche anime fan market, and the best of that was through the various fansub clubs. The stuff legally imported for mass market broadcast (Pokemon, Dragonball Z etc.) was universally drek, and badly dubbed, butchered drek at that.<br /><br />It's a little better now, but you still have to do a bit of looking to find the good stuff. The average couch potato still gets spoonfed mostly drek, and so that's his impression of all anime. To be painfully honest he's not that far off the mark. Probably 90% of all anime ever produced has been crap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-57065458598774845332013-04-16T09:59:48.185-04:002013-04-16T09:59:48.185-04:00No, that's actually saying quite a lot. In the...No, that's actually saying quite a lot. In the 90s, American had anime curated for us, so we got the best that had to be offered, and went "oh, anime's the best thing ever" <br /><br />Now I and everyone else can try, like, 20+ anime per season (that's just the legal streams), and now everyone who watches anime can't put it on as much of an exotic pedastal, because Japan's pumping out some real lowest common denominator crap, just like any other country doing animation. YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-63610154905412611692013-04-16T01:58:52.920-04:002013-04-16T01:58:52.920-04:00> The viewing selection for anime fans has neve...> The viewing selection for anime fans has never been as broad as it is now.<br />That's not saying much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-55529163675790409622013-04-16T00:30:13.097-04:002013-04-16T00:30:13.097-04:00The viewing selection for anime fans has never bee...The viewing selection for anime fans has never been as broad as it is now. Back in the 90s, no, I had to get what I could find, or see on TV. <br /><br />I have watched a lot of mediocre to bad anime recently, mostly for the purposes of discussion or review writing.<br /><br />I've already said my piece on Dragonball, and when I was younger, I looked up all that was taken out or modified in it. I would watch Kai, but since free time is for kids, I can't commit to even that reduced amount of episodes. YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-1081543662676898932013-04-16T00:24:00.136-04:002013-04-16T00:24:00.136-04:00No, it wasn't at all. I wasn't being serio...No, it wasn't at all. I wasn't being serious- but saying I wasn't serious would deaden the effect. YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-16042860904042220982013-04-15T23:00:20.474-04:002013-04-15T23:00:20.474-04:00*sigh* Because most of the ones we lost didn'...*sigh* Because most of the ones we lost didn't post as Anonymous. Was that really that hard to figure out?Dianenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-770167324152867542013-04-15T16:06:50.015-04:002013-04-15T16:06:50.015-04:00Nothing wrong with mile long threads about animati...Nothing wrong with mile long threads about animation.<br /><br />Back when I was about seven I thought Mazinga was the Best Thing Ever. When I re-watched it about ten years ago it wasn't nearly as good as nostalgia made it out to be. In between I watched a lot of animation and had learned to distinguish the good from the mediocre from the bad from the merely profit driven, and Mazinga was definitely never as good as I had remember it being. I still have happy memories of watching it, but now I know my tastes at 7 were anything but discerning.<br /><br />It may be different for you since your viewing selection is much more limited. American video corporations seem to import only what will be the most profitable at separating children from their parent's money. And even what they do import they can't resist messing with and ruining further. They wouldn't know good animation if it bit them on the butt, and they don't care. Even the better companies are still guilty; look at how Disney has cherry picked Ghibli and refuses to release the entire library even though they made sure to buy exclusive rights to all of it (but that is a rant for another day).<br /><br />I suppose it's much more difficult to learn what good animation is when all you have to go on is butchered Dragonball, butchered Pokemon, butchered Sailormoon etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-77653763787860884512013-04-14T20:56:01.445-04:002013-04-14T20:56:01.445-04:00I guess I've seen it your way, or whatever. An...I guess I've seen it your way, or whatever. Anything to stop this thread from being a mile long. <br /><br />I've seen a lot of magnificent anime since I've watched Dragonball, but that hasn't soured me on it; Dragonball fails in some aspects, while holding up in others. Akira Toriyama is awesome, and so far what I've sampled of his work is great. <br /><br />I'll see in 10 years? I watched Dragonball Z when it came to America in the 90s. How young do you think I am? I'm well aware of Dragonball being the golden goose, and it'll probably be farmed for merchandise and movies for maybe another decade to come. Your opinion is your own. You can keep it. YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-39359070475779539902013-04-14T19:21:11.836-04:002013-04-14T19:21:11.836-04:00> source
Been there; done that. It's a genr...> source<br />Been there; done that. It's a genre <i>BY DEFINITION</i>, and I've given you the definition.<br /><br />Nobody here is saying the sky isn't blue, but you are denying what a sky is.<br /><br />You YOURSELF have said that anime has a recognizable style to it, and we call any body of art that can be recognized by a particular style or theme or subject or origin or whatever a GENRE of the art. That's what the word means. We are posting on an English board for an English speaking audience, and by the English definition of genre and the English definition of anime, anime is a genre of animation.<br /><br />Yes, the Japanese definition of アニメ refers to all animation of any style or origin <b><i>in Japanese</i></b>, but you can't try to force the use of Japanese definitions on an English forum. All you will accomplish is greater confusion and make yourself look like a weeaboo ass. For that matter the reverse also holds. When translating the English word anime on a Japanese forum you have to be very careful to translate it as 日本製アニメ, which roughly means Japanese style animation, to distinguish it from all animation.<br /><br />Oh, and I've been a fan of anime and other genres of animation since long before you were born. I think your perceptions of Dragonball are more than a bit rose colored by your youth. You're not alone in that; I had lousy taste when I was a kid too. The original Dragonball was a fairly decent middle of the road production of a middle of the road story, but everything after that has been utter drek milking the franchise for all it's worth. You'll see that in about 10 years or so. It will probably come as quite a shock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-40062224211837052372013-04-14T12:25:41.436-04:002013-04-14T12:25:41.436-04:00Point me to your sources which state that anime is...Point me to your sources which state that anime is a genre. I'll wait.<br /><br />What anime I like isn't in question. The anime I like are pretty awesome. If anyone actually knew what anime you were into (Are you into anime at all? Have you watched anime, or just have heard about it. Who's to know?) we could gauge your tastes as you shallowly gauge mine. <br /><br />I'm not bothered by anime being a genre of animation; it's not. If the sky's blue and you say it's red, I'm not going to allow you or anyone else to continue to say that. <br /><br />Now, I'll ask you: is the animation of every country its own genre of animation? YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-16169425940790798302013-04-14T01:58:58.507-04:002013-04-14T01:58:58.507-04:00But anime is a genre. Your refusal to admit it mea...But anime is a genre. Your refusal to admit it means you either do not know what anime is, which is doubtful (despite your questionable taste in anime), or you don't know that "genre" means, which you've more than demonstrated.<br /><br />Deal with it.<br /><br />The real question is why you have so much difficulty admitting anime is a genre of animation. Why does that bother you so much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-23054984989327686592013-04-14T00:49:27.458-04:002013-04-14T00:49:27.458-04:00Yeah, that YotaroVegeta's been running his mou...Yeah, that YotaroVegeta's been running his mouth!YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-4737733028381152592013-04-13T17:18:04.654-04:002013-04-13T17:18:04.654-04:00No, sorry. I apologise. That's horribly misr...No, sorry. I apologise. That's horribly misrepresentational. A horde of anime fans did not rise in protest and sit down again breathing heavily.<br /><br />It was mostly just YotaroVegeta.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-11999790495031466942013-04-13T17:13:30.284-04:002013-04-13T17:13:30.284-04:00I saw from the front page that there were fifty co...I saw from the front page that there were fifty comments. I knew immediately that a horde of anime fans had risen in protest... and then sat back down again, breathing heavily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-88616330009905526012013-04-13T12:56:03.756-04:002013-04-13T12:56:03.756-04:00No, it isn't a contradiction. Sometimes, what ...No, it isn't a contradiction. Sometimes, what you feel is right and what is true are two different things. I feel that Anime is not a genre, and also Anime is not a genre. So in this case, what I feel and what I now know coincide.<br /><br />Anime is animation, not a genre of animation. No one ever calls animation of any other country a "genre" of animation. <br /><br />I was waiting for that lame, tired criticism to come around. Oh, did you recognize my screen name? You're so perceptive! It was the first anime I really loved, and that's true for millions of people. Is it the best anime ever? No, but It's still a very good show. <br /><br />I've watched tons of anime since then, but liking dudes with superpowers fighting is never something to be ashamed of. RIGHT, comic book fans? Please, you make me laugh. You should go into comedy. <br /><br />You don't even come in here under any name. I, on the other hand, wear my fandom proudly. YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-576109178891791622013-04-12T23:32:22.776-04:002013-04-12T23:32:22.776-04:00> I FEEL that anime is not a genre of animation...> I FEEL that anime is not a genre of animation,<br />> I don't leave definitions to "FEELings."<br />Facepalm.<br /><br />At least he waited a couple of posts to contradict himself.<br /><br />And as to someone named after a dragonball character trying to discuss good anime: 'nuff said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-40728474547107266672013-04-12T23:15:43.479-04:002013-04-12T23:15:43.479-04:00Most of these people are Anonymous. How do you kno...Most of these people are Anonymous. How do you know if you lose them? YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-9221634256040037682013-04-12T23:13:59.747-04:002013-04-12T23:13:59.747-04:00Yes, and that person is you. "Nerd-girls neve...Yes, and that person is you. "Nerd-girls never pick good anime." I don't know what you see that as. YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-28985059259138856922013-04-12T23:12:17.772-04:002013-04-12T23:12:17.772-04:00Anonymous 5:25, It's not a genre, and the case... Anonymous 5:25, It's not a genre, and the cases made here for it being a genre have been unconvincing. I don't leave definitions to "feelings." YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-76550908142051848522013-04-12T23:08:28.590-04:002013-04-12T23:08:28.590-04:00Ha ha ha! Shh! Hypocrisy? Nah, no one here could b...Ha ha ha! Shh! Hypocrisy? Nah, no one here could be guilty of that!YotaruVegetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229842946751365018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-44666755505734891442013-04-12T15:21:26.199-04:002013-04-12T15:21:26.199-04:00> Genre is something the creator does on purpos...> Genre is something the creator does on purpose.<br />Only if they're a hack trying to write to a target audience for easy sales (this is a lot of what's wrong with steampunk).<br /><br />Most creators just have a story to write, and they leave it up to the audience and critics to pigeonhole their work into various genres. That's how genres work. This isn't a hard concept for you kids to figure out, so why do you keep failing at it?<br /><br />Also anime is not just "animation from Japan" (even though that in itself would qualify as a genre). A lot of "western" animation came out of Japan (at least until we discovered it was cheaper to chain Koreans to the drawing tables). Is the animated "Hobbit" anime? Or "The Last Unicorn"? What about "Megas XLR" or "Teen Titans"? They may not qualify under your precious overly rigid personal weeaboo definition of the genre, but to the rest of us they're anime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-87083188298559412592013-04-12T13:28:52.468-04:002013-04-12T13:28:52.468-04:00Oh, it goes in cycles. The last time it spiraled ...Oh, it goes in cycles. The last time it spiraled out of control, we lost some good posters. Things were pretty boring for awhile, then started to pick up. Looks like we're entering the Death Spiral again.Dianenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799511146497548002.post-33511980503321468902013-04-12T11:31:11.541-04:002013-04-12T11:31:11.541-04:00Genre is something the creator does on purpose. I...Genre is something the creator does on purpose. If you want to write a coming-of-age story, you consciously put in the elements of that genre. If you leave those elements out, you have failed to write a coming-of-age story.<br /><br />Identify all the common elements to anime that you want--big eyes, hair colors that don't occur in nature, all the things that make you recognize anime when you see it, as many as you can think of, even those that aren't common to every anime, like robots or annoying-animal-sidekicks. An animator in Japan can make a project that has literally none of those elements, and it is still an anime, categorically, because it is animation that came from Japan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com