He's probably been maced so many times that he must be a connoisseur of pepper spray. He's able to discern the acridness and burning sensation between various brands.
I'm curious if you honestly believe that and from where you've drawn your opinion. Harassment is harassment, and I would like for you to find a single anti-harassment policy that isn't gender specific. If a male cosplayer is assaulted, he should absolutely report it, and if the con "laughs at him", they should be drummed out of their organization. Is it too much for you to look at the problem in a way that if anyone is harassment, their harassment is valid or do you really think that because men can be harassed, it somehow invalidates the fact that women are harassed as well? Is that too much of a stretch for you to grasp? ALL harassment is wrong and no one is laughing at it.
The reason laws and rules about sexual harrassment and other such things favor women is because this stuff happens to women more! And I'm not just talking conventions. More women than men are stalked, sexually harrassed, raped, etc every year than men.
No one's saying it doesn't happen to men. And yes, it sucks when men try to defend themselves or find help and aren't taken seriously, but the best way to fix that is to make things better for everyone, starting with who has it worse. Same goes for the BS "all lives matter" movement. You start where there's a problem first.
I stand behind my table at cons at shows and do what I have to get traffic over to my table. Best method I've found is comment on what the person is wearing. Even a "nice t-shirt" can bring someone on over. I've seen plenty of sexy cos-play costumes. Seen a few that I really had to wonder why on Earth the young lady thought it was a good idea to wear what they were wearing. I was at my table last weekend and two women walked by cos-playing and they were both sexy as all get out. They had bodies they you could tell they spent a lot of time and effort in the gym working on and their outfits, while not risque, showed off their hard work. They were a a gender bent captain America and a Spider-girl. They made their way by looking at everything and made eye contact with me (which is why I stand at my table and not sit, easier to make visual connections with folks), I smile and say "Ladies, I've got to say, you two make me kinda want to break the law." And they laughed and came to talk to me. Very nice ladies too.
People wearing cos-play costumes want attention and comments obviously. I haven't witnessed anyone getting out of line with a lady cos-playing personally, but I know it goes on. I get that these charmless dolts have no clue how to talk to a woman so their comments are idiotic and often offensive. What I can't fathom is what switch got tripped in their brain that makes them think "I've got to put my hands on this person that I don't know".
Tone and body language are key along with indeed knowing your audience. There's a definitive line between risque and flat out creepy. I've worked very hard to be conscious of my delivery when cold chatting at cons.
I agree with everything you're saying. Guys need to learn some restraint and keep unwelcome hands to themselves. I understand how tortuous it is to see all those sexy women in sexy costumes and not be able to squeeze their asses, motorboat their tits, or stick your tongue in their belly buttons. But if the ladies don't like that, they have a right to be left alone. And anybody who can't stop violating that right has no business being in public. That's why these rules are in place.
But all is not lost for horny convention-goers. It's not like cosplayers won't let you touch them with a ten-foot pole. If you ask permission and aren't an asshole about it, they are more than happy to pose for pictures. And if you want a bit more of a thrill, ask if they'll pose WITH you. Not only do they agree to, but they'll snuggle right up to you and let you put your arm around their waists. Plus there's always the chance that a cosplayer will be into you. It may not sound realistic, but I've been hugged, kissed, flirted with, and given phone numbers by cosplayers. Don't think it can't happen to you too! If you're lucky, you may meet that special cosplayer who takes you somewhere private and lets you get as handsy as you want. But if not, oh well. Respect those women's rights, take plenty of pictures, and jack one out when you get home.
It's going to have to. Otherwise, they can get their asses tossed out. I'll bet some of them are the same knuckle-dragging idiots that are leaving "anonymous" comments on one of the other sub-threads here.
Nobody's projecting, "mate". I make no secret of the pigdog I am. I just happen to be a pigdog who respects other people's rights. Meanwhile, you're projecting your hatred of absolutely everyone onto completely unrelated topics. I'll put my brains against yours any day. Shouldn't you and about five more just like you be riding around in a dusty pickup with empty Foster's cans rattling around in back, beating up any "abos" that try to come into your neighborhood?
Nobody's "assmad" or "butthurt" in my hemisphere, dude. And if I'm dumber than the guy in the OP, then an angry little troll like yourself calling anyone else "assmad" makes you dumber than both of us put together. Or maybe I'm wrong and you just come across as a walking rage-boner, when in reality, you're laughing at this whole exchange as hard as I am. Such is the problem with written communication.
What a douchebag...
ReplyDeleteHe's probably been maced so many times that he must be a connoisseur of pepper spray. He's able to discern the acridness and burning sensation between various brands.
ReplyDeleteFunny part is, i've seen many people start swarming women and trying to touch them that DO support the rules. Funny how that goes.
ReplyDeleteAt least you're still free to grope and hit on male cosplayers. If they complain they'll just get laughed at.
ReplyDeleteWaaaah men have it so hard!
DeleteI'm curious if you honestly believe that and from where you've drawn your opinion. Harassment is harassment, and I would like for you to find a single anti-harassment policy that isn't gender specific. If a male cosplayer is assaulted, he should absolutely report it, and if the con "laughs at him", they should be drummed out of their organization. Is it too much for you to look at the problem in a way that if anyone is harassment, their harassment is valid or do you really think that because men can be harassed, it somehow invalidates the fact that women are harassed as well? Is that too much of a stretch for you to grasp? ALL harassment is wrong and no one is laughing at it.
DeleteMen do in fact have it harder than women. Feminism lied to you.
DeleteI got my info from every in-shape male cosplayer I've ever talked to. SJW scum rule conventions with an iron fist.
The reason laws and rules about sexual harrassment and other such things favor women is because this stuff happens to women more! And I'm not just talking conventions. More women than men are stalked, sexually harrassed, raped, etc every year than men.
DeleteNo one's saying it doesn't happen to men. And yes, it sucks when men try to defend themselves or find help and aren't taken seriously, but the best way to fix that is to make things better for everyone, starting with who has it worse. Same goes for the BS "all lives matter" movement. You start where there's a problem first.
"More women than men ... raped, etc every year than men."
DeleteSorry mate, not in the land of the free and its prison rape epidemic.
Also, BLM is a black supremacist terrorist group that uses intimidation, arson, and murder because they want free shit. Fuck 'em.
What "free shit" have they ever asked for? And how did that subject even come up?
DeleteI stand behind my table at cons at shows and do what I have to get traffic over to my table. Best method I've found is comment on what the person is wearing. Even a "nice t-shirt" can bring someone on over. I've seen plenty of sexy cos-play costumes. Seen a few that I really had to wonder why on Earth the young lady thought it was a good idea to wear what they were wearing. I was at my table last weekend and two women walked by cos-playing and they were both sexy as all get out. They had bodies they you could tell they spent a lot of time and effort in the gym working on and their outfits, while not risque, showed off their hard work. They were a a gender bent captain America and a Spider-girl. They made their way by looking at everything and made eye contact with me (which is why I stand at my table and not sit, easier to make visual connections with folks), I smile and say "Ladies, I've got to say, you two make me kinda want to break the law." And they laughed and came to talk to me. Very nice ladies too.
ReplyDeletePeople wearing cos-play costumes want attention and comments obviously. I haven't witnessed anyone getting out of line with a lady cos-playing personally, but I know it goes on. I get that these charmless dolts have no clue how to talk to a woman so their comments are idiotic and often offensive. What I can't fathom is what switch got tripped in their brain that makes them think "I've got to put my hands on this person that I don't know".
Lady here. A comment like that would make me flee and report you. No matter how friendly you act, a joke like that sounds terrifying.
DeleteI'm just saying. Be careful with that. If you don't know your audience, risque jokes like that don't seem prudent.
Tone and body language are key along with indeed knowing your audience. There's a definitive line between risque and flat out creepy. I've worked very hard to be conscious of my delivery when cold chatting at cons.
DeleteI agree with everything you're saying. Guys need to learn some restraint and keep unwelcome hands to themselves. I understand how tortuous it is to see all those sexy women in sexy costumes and not be able to squeeze their asses, motorboat their tits, or stick your tongue in their belly buttons. But if the ladies don't like that, they have a right to be left alone. And anybody who can't stop violating that right has no business being in public. That's why these rules are in place.
ReplyDeleteBut all is not lost for horny convention-goers. It's not like cosplayers won't let you touch them with a ten-foot pole. If you ask permission and aren't an asshole about it, they are more than happy to pose for pictures. And if you want a bit more of a thrill, ask if they'll pose WITH you. Not only do they agree to, but they'll snuggle right up to you and let you put your arm around their waists. Plus there's always the chance that a cosplayer will be into you. It may not sound realistic, but I've been hugged, kissed, flirted with, and given phone numbers by cosplayers. Don't think it can't happen to you too! If you're lucky, you may meet that special cosplayer who takes you somewhere private and lets you get as handsy as you want. But if not, oh well. Respect those women's rights, take plenty of pictures, and jack one out when you get home.
I'm honestly not sure if that's going to discourage them from what they do.
DeleteIt's going to have to. Otherwise, they can get their asses tossed out. I'll bet some of them are the same knuckle-dragging idiots that are leaving "anonymous" comments on one of the other sub-threads here.
DeleteI'm asexual, you brainless SJW filth. You are projecting.
DeleteNobody's projecting, "mate". I make no secret of the pigdog I am. I just happen to be a pigdog who respects other people's rights. Meanwhile, you're projecting your hatred of absolutely everyone onto completely unrelated topics. I'll put my brains against yours any day. Shouldn't you and about five more just like you be riding around in a dusty pickup with empty Foster's cans rattling around in back, beating up any "abos" that try to come into your neighborhood?
DeleteAssmad SJW identified. You're even dumber than the guy in the OP.
DeleteNobody's "assmad" or "butthurt" in my hemisphere, dude. And if I'm dumber than the guy in the OP, then an angry little troll like yourself calling anyone else "assmad" makes you dumber than both of us put together. Or maybe I'm wrong and you just come across as a walking rage-boner, when in reality, you're laughing at this whole exchange as hard as I am. Such is the problem with written communication.
DeleteI mad
DeleteU mad
We all mad for gonads
Good riddance. If the rules keep guys like him out, that's best for everybody on the inside.
ReplyDeleteIs it right or wrong that I keep away from any cosplayers because I think the groping oglers aren't the only weird obsessives in the room?
ReplyDeleteI don't see that you are doing any harm by keeping away. To each his own.
Delete"...I shoulda just stayed home."
ReplyDeleteYou sir, should have stayed home prior to all these convention rules ;)