I don't know why being a grown-up and feeling negative emotions about how Ben Affleck would likely make a terrible Batman should be mutually exclusive.
And when you grow up Doctor, you'll understand that someone having a different opinion than you doesn't mean they need to grow up. I am in fact old enough to be familiar with Adam West's incarnation of the caped crusader. I have to agree that frustrated and disappointed are more likely feelings, but depend on your definition of "mad".
One of the better "it's true" posts. Either see the movie or not. Warner Brothers, DC Comics, Zach Snyder, Christopher Nolan, and Ben Affleck owe you nothing. Not even a decent movie.
Um, isn't that how the movie industry works, though? Movies are expensive to make, if they want to make a profit off it (and be honest, that's all Hollywood really wants: your money) they need people to actually LIKE it. Not that I'm saying that casting Ben Affleck as Batman is a terrible decision, but it doesn't seem to be a popular one, and that could negatively affect their chances of making a profit.
@ 2:16PM, no, they make money by having lots of CGI and a popular super hero and A-list stars in their movies. Not by making good movies. Kind of how Marvel and DC and their method of making comics.
I remember telling friends to relax about Heath Ledger...but it was all to do with faith in Christopher Nolan who had been consistently knocking it out of the park.
Yes actually, I thought it was a really inspired choice. Only long after the fact, did I become aware of any nerd-rage or controversy over the decision.
Just a question I'll throw out here. Didn't this news about Affleck taking over the Bat cape break late last night? If that's the case, how was this comment overheard in the shop when the comic itself was posted this morning?
They were talking about it at sdcc. I think it's only the mainstream media only heard about it last night. Mr. Tim's probably had this comic on standby waiting for the right moment.
It may well have been overheard at some point in the past couple of weeks, and Tim has been biding his time waiting for the official announcement to come out of hollywood. I don't know how much trouble a lowly webcomic artist can get into for spoiling on a big hollywood production, but it can't be good.
Perhaps he is actually quoting a friend with whom he discussed the issue the same night, allowing him to draw the comic and release it the next morning? Or perhaps he is quoting himself!
Am I the only one who is bothered by adults referring to themselves as "grown ups"? Grown up is something kids say. To me, calling yourself that implies that your body has grown but you still have the mind of a child. You might as well say "now that I'm a big boy".
I refer to myself as a grown-up, not intentionally, but because I have a little kids. You start talking all kinds of silly when you have kids. I don't know when the bathroom permanently became "the potty" but I say that regardless of whether my kids are around. I'd say eventually it will be referred to in a more adult way, but by the time that happens, I'll have grand-kids and the cycle is vicious.
Everyone keeps talkin' 'bout the DD movie and how atrocious it was. Well, yeah, it was quite atrocious (it took my love for DD, my all-time fave superhero, and made me seem as if I had retroactive bad taste), but I don't think that was necessarily because of Benjy boy. Affleck may not be Daniel Day-Lewis, but he is a better actor than most give him credit for being, and though i don't think he will pull off what Bale did, he could very well do a good, if not great job, in the iconic role. Then again, he could be George Clooney as well.
He was bad in Daredevil for the same reason he was good in Dazed and Confused. Because he is a niche actor and his niche is playing douchebags, lowlifes, and losers. The types of characters who aren't overly good at anything but think that they're the best. He plays characters who are the opposite of Batman.
Not really. His character was fairly decent, and successful too. His only flaw there was falling for a girl with a romantic past he was unable to deal with. And then dealing with it badly. Certainly he was a different character in Chasing Amy than he played in Mallrats et al.
I can see him trying to play Batman like Holden McNeil, only instead of being all, "Baaawww my girlfriend is a lesbian," he'll be all, "Baaaawwww my parents are deaaaaadd!"
His character in Chasing Amy was decent and successful relative to other Ben Affleck roles of that era. However, he still came across as smarmy instead of charming most of the time.
If Affleck is hell bent on playing a superhero, I would suggest that his skills at playing cocky d-bags would serve him best playing Guy Gardner. I don't want to see him play Batman. I want to see him get lippy with Batman and get knocked out in one punch.
I've already read the 'Heath Ledger' comment on about ten different websites, but you can't really compare the two. I think most of you haven't taken into account what a shitty Batman Christian Bale was. That stupid fake growly voice. Jesus. And even as Bruce Wayne, I wanted to punch him in the groin.
It's the COSTUME that's the star of the movies. And most of the time it's being worn by a stunt man. If there's a good story, then it'll be a good movie. Oh yeah...and cars and explosions and shit. If they get those right, and keep the Bruce Wayne shit to a minimum, it won't matter who's in the Batman suit. This ain't 'Citizen Kane' here.
Funny, I seem to remember a whole lot of outrage over Michael Keaton. There were so many comments over his lack of a proper chin, that the Directer wryly said that the only person to satisfy the nerds was Barbara Stanwyck.
Some things never change? That's really interesting actually. I was pretty young when Batman came out and was just a think I took "as is," pretty much for granted. Clearly we should not be surprised that comic fans were just as petty then as they are now, but it's not something I've considered before. The Batman film Wikipedia article talks a bit about that reaction, but I'd be really interested to learn more about the "fan culture" of previous comic generations.
Yeah, but Keaton was bad though. Yeah, I'm attacking the sacred cow. Deal with it. Anyway, the part that bugs me is most of the defenders of this choice keep saying that he's such a great director that he deserves the benefit of the doubt. But, he's not directing this movie. And he just isn't a good actor. Sorry. Bryan Cranston as Lex Luthor's pretty awesome, at least.
That has not been confirmed! Even though it would be awesome for it to be true Bryan Cranston has not been confirmed as Lex Luther it isn't true just a rumor.
I don't know why being a grown-up and feeling negative emotions about how Ben Affleck would likely make a terrible Batman should be mutually exclusive.
ReplyDeleteFrustrated? Sure. Disappointed? Maybe. Mad??? No, as an adult you shouldn't be getting angry about the casting of a character in a movie.
DeleteWhen you grow up you'll understand.
DeleteThere's never been a terrible Batman movie before.
Delete^Except there most certainly has been a terrible Batman movie before.
DeleteOh, in that case, who cares who plays Batman?
DeleteAnd when you grow up Doctor, you'll understand that someone having a different opinion than you doesn't mean they need to grow up. I am in fact old enough to be familiar with Adam West's incarnation of the caped crusader. I have to agree that frustrated and disappointed are more likely feelings, but depend on your definition of "mad".
DeleteOne of the better "it's true" posts. Either see the movie or not. Warner Brothers, DC Comics, Zach Snyder, Christopher Nolan, and Ben Affleck owe you nothing. Not even a decent movie.
ReplyDeleteUm, isn't that how the movie industry works, though? Movies are expensive to make, if they want to make a profit off it (and be honest, that's all Hollywood really wants: your money) they need people to actually LIKE it. Not that I'm saying that casting Ben Affleck as Batman is a terrible decision, but it doesn't seem to be a popular one, and that could negatively affect their chances of making a profit.
DeleteAnd that's what's lost on those that engage in nerd rage. They think they're owed something. They think they own the franchise. Neither is true.
Delete@ 2:16PM, no, they make money by having lots of CGI and a popular super hero and A-list stars in their movies. Not by making good movies. Kind of how Marvel and DC and their method of making comics.
DeleteBe honest: When you first heard that Heath Ledger would play the Joker, did you think he would be good? Thought so.
ReplyDeleteI remember telling friends to relax about Heath Ledger...but it was all to do with faith in Christopher Nolan who had been consistently knocking it out of the park.
DeleteI have little faith in Zach Synder.
Yes actually, I thought it was a really inspired choice. Only long after the fact, did I become aware of any nerd-rage or controversy over the decision.
DeleteCan't be worse than George Clooney, right? Or maybe he can.
ReplyDeleteI just hope they cast Matt Damon as Robin.
Oh come on guys. Clooney would have made an excellent Batman
DeleteHe just had an awful script and Schumacer gave awful direction.
I sincerely couldn't get past the fact that "Batman" was in a damn bathrobe half the time.
DeleteI don't really care, if it's anything like Man of Steel the superheroes won't need to act.
ReplyDeleteJust a question I'll throw out here. Didn't this news about Affleck taking over the Bat cape break late last night? If that's the case, how was this comment overheard in the shop when the comic itself was posted this morning?
ReplyDeleteIt was sometime around 4-5 pm on the west coast iirc.
DeleteI'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that.
DeleteThey were talking about it at sdcc. I think it's only the mainstream media only heard about it last night. Mr. Tim's probably had this comic on standby waiting for the right moment.
DeleteThe cartoon might be timely, but I doubt it was overheard. Literary license?
DeleteIt may well have been overheard at some point in the past couple of weeks, and Tim has been biding his time waiting for the official announcement to come out of hollywood. I don't know how much trouble a lowly webcomic artist can get into for spoiling on a big hollywood production, but it can't be good.
DeletePerhaps he is actually quoting a friend with whom he discussed the issue the same night, allowing him to draw the comic and release it the next morning? Or perhaps he is quoting himself!
DeleteI am now sending this link to everyone who asks me about the Batman casting non-issue. Thanks for encapsulating my own thoughts so well.
ReplyDeleteAm I the only one who is bothered by adults referring to themselves as "grown ups"? Grown up is something kids say. To me, calling yourself that implies that your body has grown but you still have the mind of a child. You might as well say "now that I'm a big boy".
ReplyDeleteI refer to myself as a grown-up, not intentionally, but because I have a little kids. You start talking all kinds of silly when you have kids. I don't know when the bathroom permanently became "the potty" but I say that regardless of whether my kids are around. I'd say eventually it will be referred to in a more adult way, but by the time that happens, I'll have grand-kids and the cycle is vicious.
Delete"Adult" does not always mean Grown Up.
DeleteJust look at the so-called "Adult Film Industry".
Everyone keeps talkin' 'bout the DD movie and how atrocious it was. Well, yeah, it was quite atrocious (it took my love for DD, my all-time fave superhero, and made me seem as if I had retroactive bad taste), but I don't think that was necessarily because of Benjy boy. Affleck may not be Daniel Day-Lewis, but he is a better actor than most give him credit for being, and though i don't think he will pull off what Bale did, he could very well do a good, if not great job, in the iconic role. Then again, he could be George Clooney as well.
ReplyDeleteHe was bad in Daredevil for the same reason he was good in Dazed and Confused. Because he is a niche actor and his niche is playing douchebags, lowlifes, and losers. The types of characters who aren't overly good at anything but think that they're the best. He plays characters who are the opposite of Batman.
DeleteHe was pretty good in Chasing Amy.
DeleteAnd that's pretty much all I have to say about that.
Except he was pretty much a douchebag loser in that movie too.
DeleteHe was pretty dang good in Argo.
DeleteNot really. His character was fairly decent, and successful too. His only flaw there was falling for a girl with a romantic past he was unable to deal with. And then dealing with it badly. Certainly he was a different character in Chasing Amy than he played in Mallrats et al.
DeleteI can see him trying to play Batman like Holden McNeil, only instead of being all, "Baaawww my girlfriend is a lesbian," he'll be all, "Baaaawwww my parents are deaaaaadd!"
It won't work, but I can see him trying it.
His character in Chasing Amy was decent and successful relative to other Ben Affleck roles of that era. However, he still came across as smarmy instead of charming most of the time.
DeleteIf Affleck is hell bent on playing a superhero, I would suggest that his skills at playing cocky d-bags would serve him best playing Guy Gardner. I don't want to see him play Batman. I want to see him get lippy with Batman and get knocked out in one punch.
I've already read the 'Heath Ledger' comment on about ten different websites, but you can't really compare the two. I think most of you haven't taken into account what a shitty Batman Christian Bale was. That stupid fake growly voice. Jesus. And even as Bruce Wayne, I wanted to punch him in the groin.
ReplyDeleteIt's the COSTUME that's the star of the movies. And most of the time it's being worn by a stunt man. If there's a good story, then it'll be a good movie. Oh yeah...and cars and explosions and shit. If they get those right, and keep the Bruce Wayne shit to a minimum, it won't matter who's in the Batman suit. This ain't 'Citizen Kane' here.
Batgrowl owns.
DeleteI hope he directs it too.
ReplyDeleteFunny, I seem to remember a whole lot of outrage over Michael Keaton. There were so many comments over his lack of a proper chin, that the Directer wryly said that the only person to satisfy the nerds was Barbara Stanwyck.
ReplyDeleteYes...I'm old.
Some things never change? That's really interesting actually. I was pretty young when Batman came out and was just a think I took "as is," pretty much for granted. Clearly we should not be surprised that comic fans were just as petty then as they are now, but it's not something I've considered before. The Batman film Wikipedia article talks a bit about that reaction, but I'd be really interested to learn more about the "fan culture" of previous comic generations.
DeleteYeah, but Keaton was bad though. Yeah, I'm attacking the sacred cow. Deal with it. Anyway, the part that bugs me is most of the defenders of this choice keep saying that he's such a great director that he deserves the benefit of the doubt. But, he's not directing this movie. And he just isn't a good actor. Sorry. Bryan Cranston as Lex Luthor's pretty awesome, at least.
ReplyDeleteBryan Cranston? You mean the dorky dad from 'Malcolm in the Middle'?
DeleteJesus. This movie IS going to suck.
Um...Breaking Bad has somehow escaped you, hasn't it?
DeleteIrony has somehow escaped you, hasn't it?
DeleteThat has not been confirmed! Even though it would be awesome for it to be true Bryan Cranston has not been confirmed as Lex Luther it isn't true just a rumor.
ReplyDeleteBen Affleck will attract women and Ben Affleck fans.
ReplyDeleteOhh really nice post...
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing!!!
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