While I agree that the near photo realistic art work tells us a lot about this individual; I can't help but be skeptical when someone feels able to accurately guess the quality of his dress and the state of his hygiene.
Personally I like it when people wear Steampunk attire. It's like a shortcut. When I see someone wearing a top hat with goggles on it, I already know they won't have anything interesting to say.
I love it when people make sweeping remarks about other people they've never met based solely on their choice of fashion. When I see someone doing that, I know that they're intolerant bigots who won't have anything decent to say.
I love it when people use terms like "intolerant bigot", which should be reserved for German shepard-holding Mississippi cops and concentration camp attendants, when describing someone making a joke.
We should all try to judge people on what they say instead of what they wear. And based on what Anon @ 6/26/2013 5:27 PM has to say, I'm guessing he's wearing a top hat with goggles on it.
The idea that cracking jokes about dumbasses with metal bits stuck to their clothing makes one an "intolerant bigot" may actually be the funniest comment I've ever read on this site.
I just find it frustrating and sad that people (who I assume are into comics since they read this site) that have to put up with others judging them and putting them down because of a hobby are so *quick* to turn around and do the same thing to another group. Even if you don't care for steampunk, I'd hope you'd have the decency to let other people do what's fun for them and not be a dick about it.
I don't think anyone here has a problem with Steampunk, just with attention whoring prats in superfluous goggles with purposeless gears hot glued on etc. I mean be reasonable. That sort of behavior is like a comic fans walking around dressed up in costume pretending they're Kraven the Hunter. At least comic fans have the common sense to restrict that sort of behavior to 'cons, but steamprats are out there on the streets daily making fools and targets for ridicule of themselves.
How people choose to present themselves to the world is an excellent datum for evaluating them. The skin color they were born with is not. See the difference?
Yes, because wearing funny clothes is obviously a horrible, horrible thing and you're right to call them 'prats' and ridicule them. That's totally worth spending time and effort on. Lord knows there aren't enough REAL issues to get worked up about. Good thing we have you to invent stupid, wasteful ones for us, and to tell us which hobbies and fashions are acceptable.
Is Anon @ 6/28/2013 11:19 AM trying to miss the point?
People wear funny or different clothes to get attention, Steampunks included. That's the defining goal of fashion. And the more attention they want to receive, the more abnormal or ridiculous the costume they wear will have to be.
But anyone who expects all the attention they get to be positive is a fool. And anyone who demands that they only get positive attention is an immature whiner. And anyone who blames their audience for not receiving the positive attention they crave is contemptible.
tl;dr: It's not our fault people laugh at you in your ridiculous top hat with the superfluous goggles and the purposeless gears hot glued on.
All fashion is attention whoring, huh, Anon 4:17? What did you wear today? Jeans? You attention whore. Maybe not everything everyone does is done in the hopes that someone like you will notice them?
Well that proves it. You ARE intentionally trying to miss the point. Or you don't seem to understand the distinction between fashion and mere clothing.
And regardless of what "not everyone does", anyone wearing a ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on is most definitely NOT doing it to blend in with the common masses.
That proves it. You ARE intentionally trying to miss the point. Or you don't know the distinction between fashion and mere clothes.
Unless silly steampunk fashions somehow become ubiquitous (and just how likely is that? - be honest), what everyone does or does not is irrelevant. Someone wearing in public a ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on is NOT doing it to blend in with the common masses.
Right, because the only reason anyone does anything outside their own home is to be an attention whore. Of *course* some people are doing it for attention. And some people are doing it because it makes them happy to see themselves dressed that way, and some people are doing it because they have a hobby they love and want to share it with others and perhaps interest new people in something (which is different than the motive you cynically ascribe to pretty much everyone, everywhere).
If you don't care to share in it, fine. If you think it looks stupid, that's your right. Personally, I think the whole 'low-riding jeans with the crotch at your knees' thing looks like you just don't own a belt. But just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you need to be a dick about it. Different strokes for different folks.
And now you're just repeating your failure to get the point.
Nobody is saying everything done outside the home is done to get attention.
However wearing a ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on is one of those things done for attention.
And nobody is telling you to stop wearing your ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on.
We are just telling you to stop with your ridiculous insistence that you are somehow magically entitled to immunity from criticism or ridicule for your ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on.
You are free to wear whatever stupid clothes you want. If you want to go around wearing your ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on, calling yourself Herr Doktor Professor Winkybottom von Blunderbutt, and pretending you drove in to work in your private blimp, by all means do so.
We respect your right to do so.
But remember we are free to tell you, "You look stupid wearing that." Or at the very least laugh at you behind your back.
Care to make any more completely off-the-mark assumptions?
Yes, you're right. You're completely free to be a dick. And I'm completely free to disrespect you for being a dick. And somehow I disbelieve your statement that you respect someone else's rights.
No, I don't own a top hat with goggles and gears (which you seem *really* fixated on for some reason.) I don't own any steampunk gear. (For clarity's sake... I *do* own a top hat, but I don't own any goggles, gears, or even hot glue.) I just like to see photos of people and gear in the steampunk style. Much like how I don't own any superhero cosplay, but I like to see photos of well-done cosplay.
Speaking of failure to get the point, there's a difference between 'criticism' and 'outright condemnation of an entire hobby I don't like'. You deny that you think the only point to steampunk is to be an attention whore, than state that it's just done for attention. Just because *you* only do things for attention doesn't mean that that's everyone else's motivation.
Telling someone their fashion sense is silly, ridiculous, purposeless, or just plain stupid looking is being honest, not "being a dick".
On the other hand, insisting that everyone tell you your ridiculous fashion sense is beautiful or sophisticated or intelligent or whatever and then throwing a hissy fit and impugning them when they are simply honest with you is being a dick. Or a child.
And AGAIN nobody is condemning steampunk. And why would we? It's just another genre or setting for fiction.
What we are telling you that if you go out in public wearing a ridiculous top hat, even without superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on, you are doing it for attention, and you cannot justly expect all that attention to be positive. Whining when people aren't as impressed by your ridiculous top hat as you want them to be is just being childish.
Steampunk as a genre is no different than any other genre. People fighting air pirates in steam powered blimps is no more or less ridiculous a setting than people in spandex running around punching other people in spandex. There are good steampunk works and bad steampunk works, and nobody really cares what you choose to read.
Steampunk as a fashion is at best silly, at worst stupid and ugly, and in all cases attention whoring (like all fashion). Anyone going out in day to day public wearing a ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on is no less foolish than someone going out with a vest made from a lion's face, and people will think they are dressed like an attention whoring prat. That's how the world is; deal with it. Unfortunately for the world, while I have yet to see one real lion face vest in public, silly steampunk fashion is everywhere. And that's one of the big problems with steampunk - there are a lot more people cashing in on ugly steampunk fashions than on steampunk books, and silly steampunk fans are buying it.
Steampunk as a "movement" is just a mass case of unwarranted self importance. The less said about it the better.
tl;dr: Steampunk genre = good. Steampunk fashion = ridiculous. Steampunk fans insisting everyone like what they like = petulant.
To be honest, I've seen exactly as many lion-faced vests out in public as I have "ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on". At conventions? Yes, I've seen lots of steampunk fashions. And cosplay.
For the record, because you continue to make completely wrong assumptions so I'll continue to fit into your target box... I wear my tophat for formal occasions where it's appropriate, such as a recent wedding. I don't wear it every day.
I also never insisted anyone else like what I like. In fact, the first comment I made contained the sentence 'Even if you don't care for steampunk, I'd hope you'd have the decency to let other people do what's fun for them and not be a dick about it.' Apparently, though, it's ok to insist that everyone *dislike* what you dislike. And yes, there *is* a difference between being 'honest' and being a dick, which you obviously have yet to realize.
I get that you have a pathological hatred of tophats. I'm guessing a tophat once stole your girlfriend or killed your parents or something. But that doesn't mean that everyone needs to agree with you that anyone with a tophat (with or without goggles, gears, or glue) should be reviled and stoned.
I've not missed your point. You think that steampunk fashion and steampunk fans are just awful. You just continue to miss MY point, which is that IT IS OK FOR YOU TO NOT LIKE IT. But it is ALSO OK FOR OTHERS TO LIKE IT. And JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEED TO BE A DICK ABOUT IT. (And yes, insulting people by calling them 'prats' because you don't like their hobby is being a dick, not being 'honest'.)
Yes, you have missed my point. I haven't said a single disparaging word about the steampunk genre. Go back and look. And what an ego you have; we're not talking about YOU.
Steampunk is not the issue here. Attention whoring steampunk fans (a.k.a. steamprats) who go out in public dressed like inappropriate idiots who cannot separate fantasy from reality AND DEMAND THAT THEY BE FREE FROM CRITICISM FOR IT are. They've turned the steampunk genre into just another form of idiot hipsterism. Like furries, the problem is not their fetish; the problem is their constant whining about it.
Another thing you fail to understand: someone who tells you your ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on makes you look like an attention whoring idiot IS TRYING TO HELP YOU.
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ReplyDeleteobligatory it's true remark.
ReplyDeleteNever before has such truth been so well put
ReplyDeleteAt least the Steampunks dress better and have better hygiene than this guy.
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree that the near photo realistic art work tells us a lot about this individual; I can't help but be skeptical when someone feels able to accurately guess the quality of his dress and the state of his hygiene.
DeleteDid this one tough a nerve anon?
DeleteSo, 11:56 anon, when you read this comic, did all the useless hotglued gears pop off of your monacle?
DeleteDoes anyone else think this guy looks like Cletus The Slack-Jawed Yokel?
ReplyDeleteSome folk'll never eat a skunk
DeleteBut then again, some folk'll
Some folk'll never lose a toe
Deletebut then again some folk'll
Like Cletus the slack-jawed yokel!
Personally I like it when people wear Steampunk attire. It's like a shortcut. When I see someone wearing a top hat with goggles on it, I already know they won't have anything interesting to say.
ReplyDeleteI love it when people make sweeping remarks about other people they've never met based solely on their choice of fashion. When I see someone doing that, I know that they're intolerant bigots who won't have anything decent to say.
DeleteI love it when people use terms like "intolerant bigot", which should be reserved for German shepard-holding Mississippi cops and concentration camp attendants, when describing someone making a joke.
DeleteMan, someone is REALLY touchy about his goggles with broken watch parts hot glued all over them.
DeleteWe should all try to judge people on what they say instead of what they wear. And based on what Anon @ 6/26/2013 5:27 PM has to say, I'm guessing he's wearing a top hat with goggles on it.
DeleteSo if I wear a tophat with goggles on it, I don't have to worry about people like you talking to me? Sweet. Where can I get one?
DeleteThe idea that cracking jokes about dumbasses with metal bits stuck to their clothing makes one an "intolerant bigot" may actually be the funniest comment I've ever read on this site.
DeleteI just find it frustrating and sad that people (who I assume are into comics since they read this site) that have to put up with others judging them and putting them down because of a hobby are so *quick* to turn around and do the same thing to another group. Even if you don't care for steampunk, I'd hope you'd have the decency to let other people do what's fun for them and not be a dick about it.
DeleteI don't think anyone here has a problem with Steampunk, just with attention whoring prats in superfluous goggles with purposeless gears hot glued on etc. I mean be reasonable. That sort of behavior is like a comic fans walking around dressed up in costume pretending they're Kraven the Hunter. At least comic fans have the common sense to restrict that sort of behavior to 'cons, but steamprats are out there on the streets daily making fools and targets for ridicule of themselves.
DeleteHow people choose to present themselves to the world is an excellent datum for evaluating them. The skin color they were born with is not. See the difference?
DeleteYes, because wearing funny clothes is obviously a horrible, horrible thing and you're right to call them 'prats' and ridicule them. That's totally worth spending time and effort on. Lord knows there aren't enough REAL issues to get worked up about. Good thing we have you to invent stupid, wasteful ones for us, and to tell us which hobbies and fashions are acceptable.
DeleteIs Anon @ 6/28/2013 11:19 AM trying to miss the point?
DeletePeople wear funny or different clothes to get attention, Steampunks included. That's the defining goal of fashion. And the more attention they want to receive, the more abnormal or ridiculous the costume they wear will have to be.
But anyone who expects all the attention they get to be positive is a fool. And anyone who demands that they only get positive attention is an immature whiner. And anyone who blames their audience for not receiving the positive attention they crave is contemptible.
tl;dr: It's not our fault people laugh at you in your ridiculous top hat with the superfluous goggles and the purposeless gears hot glued on.
All fashion is attention whoring, huh, Anon 4:17? What did you wear today? Jeans? You attention whore.
DeleteMaybe not everything everyone does is done in the hopes that someone like you will notice them?
Well that proves it. You ARE intentionally trying to miss the point. Or you don't seem to understand the distinction between fashion and mere clothing.
DeleteAnd regardless of what "not everyone does", anyone wearing a ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on is most definitely NOT doing it to blend in with the common masses.
They absolutely ARE doing it for attention.
That proves it. You ARE intentionally trying to miss the point. Or you don't know the distinction between fashion and mere clothes.
DeleteUnless silly steampunk fashions somehow become ubiquitous (and just how likely is that? - be honest), what everyone does or does not is irrelevant. Someone wearing in public a ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on is NOT doing it to blend in with the common masses.
They ARE doing it for attention.
Right, because the only reason anyone does anything outside their own home is to be an attention whore. Of *course* some people are doing it for attention. And some people are doing it because it makes them happy to see themselves dressed that way, and some people are doing it because they have a hobby they love and want to share it with others and perhaps interest new people in something (which is different than the motive you cynically ascribe to pretty much everyone, everywhere).
DeleteIf you don't care to share in it, fine. If you think it looks stupid, that's your right. Personally, I think the whole 'low-riding jeans with the crotch at your knees' thing looks like you just don't own a belt. But just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you need to be a dick about it. Different strokes for different folks.
And now you're just repeating your failure to get the point.
DeleteNobody is saying everything done outside the home is done to get attention.
However wearing a ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on is one of those things done for attention.
And nobody is telling you to stop wearing your ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on.
We are just telling you to stop with your ridiculous insistence that you are somehow magically entitled to immunity from criticism or ridicule for your ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on.
You are free to wear whatever stupid clothes you want. If you want to go around wearing your ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on, calling yourself Herr Doktor Professor Winkybottom von Blunderbutt, and pretending you drove in to work in your private blimp, by all means do so.
We respect your right to do so.
But remember we are free to tell you, "You look stupid wearing that." Or at the very least laugh at you behind your back.
You will respect our right to do so.
Care to make any more completely off-the-mark assumptions?
DeleteYes, you're right. You're completely free to be a dick. And I'm completely free to disrespect you for being a dick. And somehow I disbelieve your statement that you respect someone else's rights.
No, I don't own a top hat with goggles and gears (which you seem *really* fixated on for some reason.) I don't own any steampunk gear. (For clarity's sake... I *do* own a top hat, but I don't own any goggles, gears, or even hot glue.) I just like to see photos of people and gear in the steampunk style. Much like how I don't own any superhero cosplay, but I like to see photos of well-done cosplay.
Speaking of failure to get the point, there's a difference between 'criticism' and 'outright condemnation of an entire hobby I don't like'. You deny that you think the only point to steampunk is to be an attention whore, than state that it's just done for attention. Just because *you* only do things for attention doesn't mean that that's everyone else's motivation.
STILL failing to get the point.
DeleteTelling someone their fashion sense is silly, ridiculous, purposeless, or just plain stupid looking is being honest, not "being a dick".
On the other hand, insisting that everyone tell you your ridiculous fashion sense is beautiful or sophisticated or intelligent or whatever and then throwing a hissy fit and impugning them when they are simply honest with you is being a dick. Or a child.
And AGAIN nobody is condemning steampunk. And why would we? It's just another genre or setting for fiction.
What we are telling you that if you go out in public wearing a ridiculous top hat, even without superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on, you are doing it for attention, and you cannot justly expect all that attention to be positive. Whining when people aren't as impressed by your ridiculous top hat as you want them to be is just being childish.
Steampunk as a genre is no different than any other genre. People fighting air pirates in steam powered blimps is no more or less ridiculous a setting than people in spandex running around punching other people in spandex. There are good steampunk works and bad steampunk works, and nobody really cares what you choose to read.
Steampunk as a fashion is at best silly, at worst stupid and ugly, and in all cases attention whoring (like all fashion). Anyone going out in day to day public wearing a ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on is no less foolish than someone going out with a vest made from a lion's face, and people will think they are dressed like an attention whoring prat. That's how the world is; deal with it. Unfortunately for the world, while I have yet to see one real lion face vest in public, silly steampunk fashion is everywhere. And that's one of the big problems with steampunk - there are a lot more people cashing in on ugly steampunk fashions than on steampunk books, and silly steampunk fans are buying it.
Steampunk as a "movement" is just a mass case of unwarranted self importance. The less said about it the better.
tl;dr: Steampunk genre = good. Steampunk fashion = ridiculous. Steampunk fans insisting everyone like what they like = petulant.
To be honest, I've seen exactly as many lion-faced vests out in public as I have "ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on". At conventions? Yes, I've seen lots of steampunk fashions. And cosplay.
DeleteFor the record, because you continue to make completely wrong assumptions so I'll continue to fit into your target box... I wear my tophat for formal occasions where it's appropriate, such as a recent wedding. I don't wear it every day.
I also never insisted anyone else like what I like. In fact, the first comment I made contained the sentence 'Even if you don't care for steampunk, I'd hope you'd have the decency to let other people do what's fun for them and not be a dick about it.' Apparently, though, it's ok to insist that everyone *dislike* what you dislike. And yes, there *is* a difference between being 'honest' and being a dick, which you obviously have yet to realize.
I get that you have a pathological hatred of tophats. I'm guessing a tophat once stole your girlfriend or killed your parents or something. But that doesn't mean that everyone needs to agree with you that anyone with a tophat (with or without goggles, gears, or glue) should be reviled and stoned.
I've not missed your point. You think that steampunk fashion and steampunk fans are just awful. You just continue to miss MY point, which is that IT IS OK FOR YOU TO NOT LIKE IT. But it is ALSO OK FOR OTHERS TO LIKE IT. And JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEED TO BE A DICK ABOUT IT. (And yes, insulting people by calling them 'prats' because you don't like their hobby is being a dick, not being 'honest'.)
Yes, you have missed my point. I haven't said a single disparaging word about the steampunk genre. Go back and look. And what an ego you have; we're not talking about YOU.
DeleteSteampunk is not the issue here. Attention whoring steampunk fans (a.k.a. steamprats) who go out in public dressed like inappropriate idiots who cannot separate fantasy from reality AND DEMAND THAT THEY BE FREE FROM CRITICISM FOR IT are. They've turned the steampunk genre into just another form of idiot hipsterism. Like furries, the problem is not their fetish; the problem is their constant whining about it.
Another thing you fail to understand: someone who tells you your ridiculous top hat with superfluous goggles and purposeless gears hot glued on makes you look like an attention whoring idiot IS TRYING TO HELP YOU.
steampunk - when goths discover brown
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ReplyDeleteSo, he's not a potential Occulus rift-buyer,then?
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