i kind of agree with him, DC's characters and plots often are more grounded than marvel's. marvel like to use aliens, wonder-drugs etc as deus ex machina a little too much. To say DC's comics are based in reality is still wrong, but I know what he was trying to say.
The most grounded DC comic I've read is Green Lantern and Green Arrow, because it covered real issues like heroin addiction and racism in America, and gave much less of a black/white view of crime and authority. And that's about an intergalactic policeman who's allergic to the colour yellow who teams up with a robin hood cosplayer, is followed everywhere by a short man with a massive head who is secretly blue, and recites poetry into a lamp in order to recharge his powers.
I know I always thought The Black Racer was SUPER realistic... Fantasy: Surfing on a surfboard in outer-space. Reality: Skiing through space, yeah boy!!!
Realistic: An alien who looks exactly like a normal human but he can fly and is more or less indestructible. (I love that he's sporting the Super-Shirt!)
Fantasy: An alien who looks like a silver man but he can fly (with a surfboard) and is more or less indestructible.
I always felt Marvel was more.... "realistic" cause most of the characters try to balance being a superhero (spiderman's constant struggle with his job at the bugle) whereas most DC heroes have some excuse for why they never have personal problems (batman's a billionaire so he can sleep all day, or most of it).
What freaking comics has this person been reading? DC has always been the more fantastical in its embrace of aliens, superpowered apes, and time travel. Marvel is the one that's always been about trying to keep their stories grounded in the real world.
If I wanted realism, I would read something along the lines of The Unknown Soldier. I read comics for escapism. Anyone who thinks that the fare from Marvel or DC is based in reality is not in touch with it to begin with.
Weirdly I can see his point. On one end of a Spectrum. DC has the most titanic, unrealistic characters (Super Man, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Black Adam), yes, but it also has many more grounded vigilantes ( Batman and Co., Green Arrow, The Question). They just cover both ends of the spectrum with very little middle ground power level folks, like say Black Canary. Oddly enough though, personal life stuff rarely regularly comes up for even the most mundane characters (except maybe the Question).
Marvel on the other hand has very few popular characters on the spectrum ends (Thor and Hulk on the high level, maybe Daredevil on the low level) but has a whole bunch of very popular middle-weights ( Spider-Man, Wolverine, Deadpool, most mutants etc.). Plus most of these characters (at least used to be) more grounded in real places and with decently realistic normal problems.
Of course if he's not referring to just base power levels and such, and actually only to story . . . then he's just being biased as both are pretty ridiculous outside of their context.
Hah. If he was serious, then this is hilarious.
ReplyDeleteI actually have a friend who makes the exact same argument.
ReplyDeleteThat is why Anime is better than comics, they are based totally in reality.
ReplyDeletei kind of agree with him, DC's characters and plots often are more grounded than marvel's. marvel like to use aliens, wonder-drugs etc as deus ex machina a little too much. To say DC's comics are based in reality is still wrong, but I know what he was trying to say.
ReplyDelete...It's just that he's a moron
ReplyDeleteOw... ow... my organs. The superman T-shirt only makes his blind bias all the more apparent.
ReplyDeleteThe most grounded DC comic I've read is Green Lantern and Green Arrow, because it covered real issues like heroin addiction and racism in America, and gave much less of a black/white view of crime and authority. And that's about an intergalactic policeman who's allergic to the colour yellow who teams up with a robin hood cosplayer, is followed everywhere by a short man with a massive head who is secretly blue, and recites poetry into a lamp in order to recharge his powers.
ReplyDeleteShut up
ReplyDeleteI know I always thought The Black Racer was SUPER realistic...
ReplyDeleteFantasy: Surfing on a surfboard in outer-space.
Reality: Skiing through space, yeah boy!!!
Man, talk about a 180 from a few years ago!
ReplyDeleteHe might have been referring to Batman, who is theoretically a plausible superhero in real life.
ReplyDeleteAnd by "theoretical", I mean "He would be dead or arrested within a week at best".
While it's true Batman has the most feasible backstory, he's still been involved in some crazy shit (including being ressurected from the dead.)
ReplyDeleteBecause all realistic women look like Power Girl.
ReplyDeleteRealistic:
ReplyDeleteAn alien who looks exactly like a normal human but he can fly and is more or less indestructible.
(I love that he's sporting the Super-Shirt!)
Fantasy:
An alien who looks like a silver man but he can fly (with a surfboard) and is more or less indestructible.
See: completely different!
I always felt Marvel was more.... "realistic" cause most of the characters try to balance being a superhero (spiderman's constant struggle with his job at the bugle) whereas most DC heroes have some excuse for why they never have personal problems (batman's a billionaire so he can sleep all day, or most of it).
ReplyDeleteWhat freaking comics has this person been reading? DC has always been the more fantastical in its embrace of aliens, superpowered apes, and time travel. Marvel is the one that's always been about trying to keep their stories grounded in the real world.
ReplyDeleteOh please. I'm definitely more of a DC fan, but both are just total gonzo throw-reality-out-the-door. All superhero comics are.
ReplyDeleteBecause one I've read their PR and the other I haven't.
ReplyDeleteIf I wanted realism, I would read something along the lines of The Unknown Soldier. I read comics for escapism. Anyone who thinks that the fare from Marvel or DC is based in reality is not in touch with it to begin with.
ReplyDeleteThe idiot probably read a news paper that had D.C. As a head line... But that's flawed because I don't think he can actually read.
ReplyDeleteWeirdly I can see his point. On one end of a Spectrum. DC has the most titanic, unrealistic characters (Super Man, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Black Adam), yes, but it also has many more grounded vigilantes ( Batman and Co., Green Arrow, The Question). They just cover both ends of the spectrum with very little middle ground power level folks, like say Black Canary. Oddly enough though, personal life stuff rarely regularly comes up for even the most mundane characters (except maybe the Question).
ReplyDeleteMarvel on the other hand has very few popular characters on the spectrum ends (Thor and Hulk on the high level, maybe Daredevil on the low level) but has a whole bunch of very popular middle-weights ( Spider-Man, Wolverine, Deadpool, most mutants etc.). Plus most of these characters (at least used to be) more grounded in real places and with decently realistic normal problems.
Of course if he's not referring to just base power levels and such, and actually only to story . . . then he's just being biased as both are pretty ridiculous outside of their context.